padhia Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 hello, i am ordering a new computer. the people at dell tell me that the dual core xeon is far superior in speed to the core 2 duo. another advantage would be that with the system that is built with the dual core xeon can be expanded to 2 processors. i have heard great things about the core 2 duo, and i have heard people say that the dual core xeon is junk. could someone please help me , i am a 3d artists but not very well versed in techincal computer jargon, so please simplify your answers. which on should i choose: core 2 duo or dual core xeon? thank you very kindly for any help you may provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 things don't look setteled yet but look at these 2 benchmarks i just found http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amd%20quad%20fx_11300611157/13591.png http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/misc/pdnbench200607.png lower better new stuff comming out and more tests to be done and looked at. any choice you make will certianly blow your mind compared to anything from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 The Dell people are trying to get you to pay more. Basically: -Pentium 4, Pentium D and Xeon chips that do not have a 4-digit model number beginning with 51 or 53 are based on the obsolete "Netburst" technology and are crap. -51xx Xeons are Xeon versions of Core2 Duo (dual core) CPUs. -53xx Xeons are Xeon versions of Core2 Quad (quad core) CPUs. A Xeon is not much faster, and in many cases not any faster at all, than a consumer version (Pentium or Core2) of the same generation with the same clock speed (the GHz number). For example, a Xeon 5150 is a dual-core 2.66GHz chip that is about equal in speed to a 2.66GHz Core2 Duo E6700. A Xeon costs more than an equivalent Core2, and requires a more expensive motherboard and RAM, making the computer a good bit more expensive. However, there are two advantages to the Xeon: -You can get a dual-socket Xeon motherboard that allows two Xeons in one system. This is not to be confused with dual cores - you get that with either option, but with Xeons you can use two dual-core at a time for 4 cores total, or 2 quad-cores for 8 cores total. This is not possible with Core2 chips. (But two of those Xeon 5150 2.66GHz chips, 4 cores total, would not give you appreciably more speed than one Core2 Quad QX6700, 2.66GHz, 4-core chip, which is a much cheaper option.) -Xeons systems, because they are sold as server or workstations systems, usually are built with better components. So, unless you have some specific reason to buy Xeon, buy Core2. For example, if your budget is huge and you want the most power you can possibly get in one box, buy a system with two Xeon 53xx CPUs, which would be 8 cores total. But if you want to spend, say, $2000 and get the most you can for that, you should get a Core2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padhia Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 thank you for the time it took you to explain that. i really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 core2quad chips jan 1*th. also those new AMD quad core chips today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Those AMDs are dual-core but can go 2 per MB. At least AMD's staying in the game, but they've still got nothing to go against dual-quad Xeons or consumer quad cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodka79 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 The heat issue is going to be a disadvantage for AMD's new quad core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvaraziz Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 if ur going to make a high end core2duo machine with core2duo xtream edition processor. ill tell u to compare price with dual xeon 51** series. core2duo X6800 (2.93 Ghz) = 999$ Xeon 5130 x 2 ( 2ghz X 2 ) = 316 x 2 (632$) isnt that extra Ghz help on rendering time,,, ? mother board and Ram 'll be costly than normal consumer products, but take a look on both rig and compare the price before u take a final decision.. take a look on this article, its little old but might be usefull, http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2002&cid=2&pg=4 regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 The X6800 is at the crazy place on the price/performance curve - way at the end where the price shoots up and the performance goes up a little. Keep in mind that these are dual-core chips, so with the Core2 you've got 5.86GHz total and with the dual Xeon you've got 8GHz total. Also keep in mind that the Xeon motherboards cost more, and so does the RAM, so price out complete systems first. But yes, the extra GHz would be helpful, depending on what software you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zdravko Barisic Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 SOMEBODY HELP PLEASE........... -Whats the differencies beetween Q6600 and XEON 3220??? Same clock, same FSB, same cashe........what is not same? I have to make decision in next few days, so please help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Not much. The 3220 doesn't support dual CPUs, so either way you've got 4 cores at the same speed and they're based on the same architecture, so the difference in performance will be negligible. The Xeon will be more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Andrew, Since you're so hardware savvy, i sure would be great if you and/or someone else in these forums could maintain a simple page on this site (not a forum), where you recommend your top choice for a $1000 computer, $1500, and $2000 for 3D use. The same questions keep getting asked over and over and it would be cool to see what you guys thought was the latest and greatest out there. Nothing fancy, just the basic specs and a sentence or two about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo scapi Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Yeah, i second what Brian says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 the concern i have is things are so dynamic and always changing and it would have to be a person keeping up such a project and doing allot of testing and that it may lean towards favoritism based on past experience, not everybody having the same ones but overall generally i agree with the idea that we can help each other out by bringing what we know together to build more affordable powerful boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willgeo12 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 hi guys. need help. can you tell me if it's ok to trade my brand new Quad Q6600 to brand new Quad-Core Intel Xeon 3200? help pls. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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