tired of getting the right settings

[Brian Kitts]

I have to agree with the things Rick and Strat said, because if you can't get good results without all the physical elements, then you sure are making it even harder on yourself to use the physical elements. I think starting with HDRI's is a better practice to improve your scene lighting, once you've mastered the control of that, then I would make the jump to the physical world.

And as also mentioned you should have LWF in your toolbox before you add the physical sky,sun, and cam.

But, with all that being said if you still think you "need" to be using them.....check this out, it should help you a bit.
http://www.vrayelite.com/camsky.php

[Ricardo Eloy]

For me, the best setup is VRayPhysCam+VRaySun+VRaySky (applied to the bg and to a VRayDomeLight). In fact, I always set the GI Environment Override to zero, so I can have full control over the amount of light created by the sky and more detailed shadows.

[chow choppe]

hi rick

i will be really grateful to u if u can attach some screenshots of what u r talking about

thanks

[Ricardo Eloy]

Screenshots? I don't see why one would need a screenshot for that, Chow. I just said I use a VRay Physical Camera, the VRaySun and the VRaySky applied as a texture to a VRay dome light.

[chow choppe]

hey cool down rick
i didnt know that u can apply vray map as texture to vray dome light
thanks

[Eric Sosa]

dunno...I have been using vray for almost 3 years now. it took me sometime to understand how vraysun, vrayligths and vraycam work together indeed and now I use them most of the time for indoors and outdoors too.

as Ray & Bkitts pointed, you need to understand how they work before expenting great results.

the way I started it was: create the vray sun using and standard cam. the only way to make it fit it was by starting with intensity 0.002/0.005 otherwise it was burning everything around....then you can play with the other sun parameters.

find out that vrayphysical cam could get more or less the same ligthing results as the standard cam by setting the shooter speed to 2.0...then you can play with the other vrayphysical cam parameters

vrayligth planes...that's the easiest and mainly for indoors.

this is very basic and it is a good start to put your vray stuff together, besides getting the rigth settings with your vray setup. as Rick said, I always got the vray envirimental ligth to 0.

hope it helps....Eric

btw. I do have a full time work designing shops and interior design.