VRay for C4D vs Cinema 4D Advanced Render

[Pete Maric]

For architectural visualization work, which render engine do you prefer? Vray for C4D or C4D Advanced Render? Why?

I have been doing all of my rendering with C4D's Advanced Render and have been looking into Vray and thinking about possibly switching over.

[Steve Shaw]

I'm mid switch. I started at a new office 6 months ago and now have C4D with Vray. My previous 14 yrs experience was base C4D or AR. Its been a struggle to make the switch but I am getting more comfortable. I do think its a faster engine but I still feel like I have more control with AR.

[Pete Maric]

Thanks for the feedback Steve! Can you achieve more realistic renders with Vray or is it about the same as C4D AR?

[Steve Shaw]

Realism and quality are subjective. I think the far bigger questions are about what is going to allow you to work comfortably and quickly.

One piece of advice I would give is GET MOGRAPH! Wow. I'm setting up all sorts of rigs for population forests and parking lots and randomizing paint shaders. Very cool.

[Pete Maric]

Agreed, Mograph is very cool! I haven't tried using Mograph for arch vis work yet. Thanks for the tips!

[Peter Hoste / bmd]

For architectural visualization work certainly vray, worked for years with AR but at a certain point the quality wasn't good enough,
clients made better previews with vray in max or rhino (less splotches, cleaner, faster)
So we were very happy when the boys in vienna made vray for c4d.
The new AR physicalengine is of course a big step forward but i still have the feeling it isn't up to match vray (more natural light, faster)
And maxon isn't showing me any highquality Arch-viz to proof me wrong
We also looked at modo (too big step interface wise) & maxwell (too slow for what we do)

[Pete Maric]

That's been my experience as well Peter. I've been using C4D AR for the past few years, although it produces decent results, there's still a little bit missing to achieve photorealistic renders for arch viz. After seeing some of the astoundingly realistic renders produced by vray users, I thought Vray might be a good rendering engine to look into. Thank you for your input!

[Marco Brunato]

In my opinion Vray is definetively better than AR both for quality and render times. It can be scary at the beginning for its different interface & parameters hell but it's easier than what it seems. Plus if you learn it most of the features are similar in different software, I started using it in Rhino so it took very little practice to use it even for cinema4D version.
Maybe these could be useful:

http://3docean.net/item/cinema4d-vra...888?ref=illbru

http://3docean.net/item/cinema4d-vra...350?ref=illbru

[Ernest Burden III]

Maxon is about to release C4Dv14, and in recent versions the render engine has seen a lot of love. There is a new 'physical' setting for AR and it's pretty close to vRay. Now, I still prefer vRay but often now I just use AR, especially for stills because it's easier. v14 is available as a demo version now. Frankly, they're both too lost in arcane, inscrutable settings, so also look at Maxwell and FryRender if you value your sanity.

[jay sean]

Thanks guys for sharing good info, i was not much aware about these software. I have have lil bit experience in c4D, its very interesting.