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Hi again. I know that my question is not easy to answer since this crashed may be due to multiple things and you don't have the details to make any guess. Is just that as i usually run into this problems with heavy scenes in render time, with the typical "unexpected error" i figured that i could try and duplicate RAM to see if i can get rid of this headache, but just in case is justified to have 64GB. This particular scene im working on, if i hide al furniture and leave in scene the forest pro elements renders fine, if i do the opposite, hide forest pro objects and render al furniture, renders fine. With all element in scene crashes. (but to be honest is not that big scene) I have made a trillion tests, unabling all displacement, on and off embree, mergind all to new scene, updating Vray to version 5, with no luck. Also if i render the scene in rebus renderfarm it renders fine, All this make me think its maybe a limit of ram issue, but what bothers me is that the currenty ram in use before error is about 22GB only the free ram runs out, i still have about 10GB on hold. Any help please? Thank you

Hello: I'm having problems rendering some of my scenes, the ones that have forest pro vegetation and heavy objects. It normally crash in the light cahe pass or at the begining. when i look at the "resources monitor" in windows, the crash accur exactly when the "free memory" reaches its end, although it still as "on hold" or "wait" ram available. (i use spanish windows) So, would i solve my rendering problems adding another 32 GB of ram to my sytem, making a total of 64 or would it be useless? Here is an attachment of what i am talking about, when the light blue "free" Mem reaches its limit it will crash max. (This capture is just with the scene loaded not rendering) Thank you!

Hi, i came here to say you the same thing. Itoo support ask me to test the beta and it looks to be working fine for the moment. I don`t want to be too optimistic before more testing (i still hold my breath every time i close MAX) but hope is ok now. Cheers.

Oh! sorry to hear that. So you still have the problem? i did try to install the license server just in case but i still have the problem. Now i have unistalled FPP and everything is fine again. I can't belive this is caused by the plugin and there is no more info about it.

Oh my god, i found this thread because I'm having the same problem. It also started to happen when instaled forest pack pro some days ago. But i ordered a stand-alone license of FPP so i don't know how to fix this. I have allready contacted itoo software and say it's the first time they know about this. I will point them to this page. Any help will be apreciated Thank you

Hi: Looking to speed up my workflow, i'm thinking this time i will buy a couple of dedicated render nodes instead of upgrading my worstation, always done that and ended up with my older machine sitting side of me and never used again because is half slower to render, so this time, i'm going the render node route!! This is what i'm thinking of: MoBo: asrock X99M extreme4 CPU: i7 5820K (3.3ghz) 6 cores Cooling: corsair hydro series h60 Ram: crucial dimm 16GB DDR4-2400 (ballistix sport) 2x8gb Power: corsair VS550 Case: cooler master N200 N1 SSD: crucial M550 128gb graphic card: the cheaper possible The Items are chosen based in a single shop dipsonibility, and looking to adjust the price at 1000€, sugestions accepted to change any particular item, but my main concern is to check with you if i shoud choose this processor or other. The 16 GB ram is also for keeping the budget, i can upgrade later if needed. I could buy a couple of these machines (probably first will try only one) so silence, efficiency and size are also important, first i tought on the helmer cabinet from Ikea, in witch many people have mounted 6 nodes (one per drawer) but then i thougth noise, dirt, temperature ... so i ended up with the idea os simply using small cases, and so also could add my older machines (2) in case of animation emergency. My goal is to only have to phisicaly start the pc and then control everything remotely in my WS. So, witch is the best setup, both hardware and especially software i should use for this. My software is 3d max-Vray and i would love to do every render through the node, but wondering if this is practicall for test renders, i guess sending the jobs, saving the image, open it to see it is not faster than quick dirty region test during workflow. Is there any automated software setup that allows us to see the real time rendering of the node but in the WS monitor? Ok, sorry my long text and hope everything makes some sense. Thanks in advance Pablo

Hi. Just wanted to update the thread. Finally yesterday i get all the parts at home. Mounting the system was really fast and without problems, this case (Antec P280) is really great and has a good room in the back for convenient storage of the cables. I did forgot to order the mechanical HDD, as i changed several times from one suplier to another in the end i forgot to include it on any , anyway i did ask for two 120 ssd OCZ V3, my idea is to use one for the OS and programs and the other one as scratch disk for PS, files that i am working at the moment for fast save, open, etc. The instalation of win7 took almost 70 GB ??? i was shocked by this, then i read that the system allocates the same amount of ram installed for usage on the disk (that is 32gb) anyway i think is too much. Right now i don't have any program yet apart from antivirus. As i still have to order the HDD i started to think again on use RAID or not, it would be a RAID 1 for safety of the data. But as i am keeping my older machine also, and (hopefully) making regular backups, i wonder if this would be neccesary or i just forget about it and buy just a black caviar 2TB. The dell 27" look amazingly BIG. Cheers

I have finally ended the shopping, now have to wait for the items to arrive and hopefully next weekend I can assamble it. Finally, an after all doubts I decided to go with the GTX 670 4gb, so one of your first advises after all. I ended up choosing this because of campitibility and GPU render possibilities. Dimitrios, I just wanted to thank you again for the time you have spend helping me and others here. BTW my second name is Demetrio, and my last name is Skapinakis, i've never been in greece but obviusly my great-grandfather did I'm from Uruguay but currently living in Spain (for more than 10 years now) so I'm getting closer to the roots I guess. Have a nice day. Pablo

Hi again: Thank you for the amount of time you have invested in your answers, with people like you it's a pleasure to ask for help here. I have seen before that benchmark on the video cards, the problem is the benchamrks allways confront cards on the same line, i mean ther is no comparison betwwen the V5900 and a GTX 670 for instance. I don't know the nitrous viewport performance since i use Max 2011, but seems to be the better choice for 2012. With the price of the Radeon V5900 a little cheaper than the GTX 670 2 GB (at least here) i think i will go with my initial thought and buy this one. I always wanted to feel the behaviour of a pro card, and this is the first time i am going to spend that a mount of money in one so it's now or never i guess. Besides i think that IF in the future i need to use GPU render, i can always trow in there a couple of GTX just for that purpose and keep my v5900 for display anyway. On the mobo, I swap to the P9X79 PRO following your advise. Besides the sabertooh has 2 fans on the board, what makes it more propense to fail I guess. I may OC to amoderate extend if I can, because my actual i7920 wich is a grat OCer I could never achieve a stable result, always BSOD in my workflow. About the RAM compatibility, this is somethig that makes me nervous, it's the actual problem on my system, and also the main reason why I prefer a 8 dimm slot board, to achieve 32GB without using all the available dimms, I thaought not using all available dimms was a safer way to assume it will recognize all mamory. Anyway, i checked the G Skilly web for the memory i choose and all these asus boards are suposed to be compatible. http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=431 The ROG formula IV looks nice, but o prefer to have 8 dimms than an extra PCI-e. even thoug i may never use 64 Gb of RAM (althoug one never knows ) On the mouse, I never liked wireless mouses, the cord in not a problem for me, althought the shape of the G700 looks sweet! About Monitor, I cuurently have a min screen of 22" with one of 19" at side, both are the same high. Question is, with the 27 display now being obiusly biger and also higher, won't I have problems to pair one or both these monitors? will this be even practical? or will the pointer jump in heigh when passing between screens? Have a nice day. Pablo

Hello Dimitri, thank you for your input. Some of the parts that I listed where the ones that I could get from that seller closer of what I was looking for, but now I'm splitting my purchase in three sellers, so I can get the pieces that I want and even some better prices in some of them. MB: Asus Sabertooth X79 CPU: Intel Core I7-3930K 3.2Ghz Box Socket 2011 HDD: Crucial M4 256GB SSD SATA3 (system) RAM: G.Skill Ripgaws 1600 pc3 4x8GB (32 GB) HDD: WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA3 64MB (Data) VGA: Gforce GTX 680 4GB PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W BOX: Antec P280 Cool: Noctua NH-D14 Monitor: Dell U2711 Mouse: Logitech G500 Win 7 pro 64bit VGA: I wanted so much to try the pro line of firepro, but the researches and your input finally make me decide to go for GTX, (I think for hte moment) i don't especially need the rendering functions, but i prefer to have them, also for the adobe softwares the fhysix capacity etc. Also being 3dmax based on directX, i think the GTX cuda capable will be better option even for viewport? Following your advide i went after a GTX670 4GB, and the where i found it the price was 530€ compared to the 590€ of the GTX680 i guess it's preferable the last one. (both are ZOTAC) Although I'm still doubting when I think that for that price I could get the firepro v7900. Also, I could have one V5900 and a second GTX560 for the same price :/ It's so hard try to decide this things without the possibilitie of testing performances !!! I could find the P280, a 1000w PSU, about the cooling, I was under the impression that the H100 would be more effective and silent than air options, but after some reviews I think it's pretty noisy and equal effective, plus the noctua is cheaper. Although I know you have advise the H100 in the past. I need also a new mouse and I think this one could be, I have BIG hands, any recomendation? On the monitor I decided I will treat myself with a big good 27" To summ it up, my main doubt is still the Grafic Card always the same question over and over again. Isn't out there a real world benchmark on the 3d max viewport performance for all these cards? Have a nice day all. Pablo

Hello: I'm about to mount a new workstation, i have use as reference the lists of andrew on amazon, but have some doubts that i wanted to ask you. My main us is autocad, 3dMAX, Vray, Photoshop, After effects, lightroom. I'm 3d guy but also an enthusiast photographer. MB: Asus Sabertooth X79 CPU: Intel Core I7-3930K 3.2Ghz Box Socket 2011 HDD: Crucial M4 256GB SSD SATA3 (system) RAM: G.Skill Ripgaws 1600 pc3 4x8GB (32 GB) VGA: ATI Firepro V5900 or Gforce GTX 670 HDD: WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA3 64MB (Data) PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200W BOX: Antec P193 V3 Cool: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100 Monitor: Dell 2410 or 2412m VGA: I have always used gaming cards, i want to try a firepro to see if i get better performance especially in 3d max display, but i have read that for adobe soft, a CUDA based card is better. Also i want to be able to use Vray RT at least for preview purposes, not final renders. I saw Andrew's list for CUDA rendering, and he adds two Gforce cards to an firepro card for display. I wonder how such a mix would work. For instance in case i need Gforce for better PShop performance, could i instal the firepro for 3dmax display and use Gforce for PS and Vray RT, how would i tell the sofw what card to use? wouldn't it be a driver conflict or problems of other type? Besides i would go for just one gforce and the firepro, so would that make a big diference or i'll be fine with just the ATI. HDD: To RAID or not to RAID, that is the question here. Now i have a 1+0 Raid setup, with 4 750GB disks. I can use these same disks on my new machine and so avoid the data transfer (pain in the A.. if you ask me), but i also want to keep my old machine as second render node (i have also an older dual xeon that i don't know what to do with ) so i will need to put anothe HDD there. Or i could just use a new 2TB disk here, this option is more temting for me. PSU: This is the best offer i could find with my dealer, is that a good choice? BOX: The same here, will i be able to fit the cooling Hydro H100 radiator on the top 2 fans compartiment of the case? Monitor: here the doubt is only for hte money, i know the 2410 is better in therms of color and gamut, so in the deep of me i know is what i need (especially for raw photo editting working on adobe rgb color space. But the difference in terms of money here is like 200 U$, so i wonder if the difference is that important. Now i have 2 monitor of worst quality than the 2412 i guess, and will be keeping ono to pair the new Dell. I guess this is all. Thank you for reading and any help will be very apreciated, i don't want to make some of the errors i did on my actual system, wich can't allways recon the 12GB of ram i have installed for isntance. Cheers.

So what you recomend is to buy 3x4GB stick of mushkin blackline, everything would be identical (if i can find them) except the size of each stick. In my initial post i was assuming everithing will be identical but different brand and off course size. The problem is that due to my actual problem, i was thinking of skipping mushing because it clear a not good match with thw X58 chipset. I have seen (in forums) that this G. Skilli ripjaws worked fine with 12GB for some setups, thats why. Thank you for your time

Hello: I currently have this setup. Mobo: Asus P6T deluxe V2 CPU: i7 920 Ram: 12GB pc3 12800 (Mushkin blackline) VCard: ATI Radeon 5870 HDD (system): SSD intel 80 GB HDD: 4 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 750GB Since the begining i had problems with my machine allways seeing the 12gb of RAM, sometimes it will only see 8Gb. I couldn't find the solution for this problem so i figured it was the memory. Now due the low price of RAM i was thinking on going for a pack of 3x4gb G.Skilli or corsair. The question is, if i purchase this new memory with the same speed and latencies than my actual, could i place the new 3x4gb and use also 3 of my actual 3x2gb for a total of 18GB keeping my 6 slots accupied and so mantaining the tri channel? I was hoping at least i could solove the initial problem and see always 12GB plus the possible 6GB of my actual modules. Could this be possible? Thank you

Ok, i fouond the page i was looking for. Here is the link in case anybody have the same problem. http://area.autodesk.com/forum/autodesk-3ds-max/autodesk-3ds-max--3ds-max-design-2010/fix-for-viewport-switching-in-max2010/

Sorry, not know how to exactly ask for this, that´s why i can´t find the solution, i know some thread here had it because i did it for 2010 version but now that i´m in 2011 again whaenever i want to change from diferent views (when viewports are maximized) pressing a key like "u" what happens is that the actual view changes to orthographic, but i want to go to the other view where i already hava an orthographic view. Do i made any sense?? you know like 2009 or prior versions. If somebody could point me to the page where this was solved or tell me how to...?? Thank you