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  1. Hey Himanshu At a glance seems like you have got a pretty good machine coming together. I don't know if you have set up your build on https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/ but its super useful for calculating cost and it keeps track of things like voltage draws and compatibility issues. That said they have a tendency to favor suppliers so check your local stores for prices and think about building a relationship with at least one shop close to where you live. It may cost you some extra cash but over time it could save you. Another great thing about part picker is you can see what other people around the world have done with similar builds and ask them questions. You can specify your country and set up a couple of versions of your plan. Power supply: I agree with the Idea of the HX1000 power supply as the draw on the 750 will push it into fan land more often thus producing noise. I am not sure of the specifics for that model but in general with gold or better power supplies the fan wont kick in until you are drawing half the rated wattage or whatever. (i am not an engineer) if you are planning on putting in another video card you will need more juice. So going bigger than you need on build day will help keep it quiet and efficient when you up grade. I have used corsair power supplies but I am also very Impressed with Seasonic they tend to cost more but hey if you can get what you need on sale at the same price... check the warranties. Case: I do love the look of the fractal design but I am all about the Enthoo Pro. I am using it because it has those silly old fashioned removable front plates. Am i going to install a blue ray burner drive? Maybe. Do I want to put in some sort of sound thingy? Perhaps. One thing for certain I am going to install a USB 3.1 C front panel and use that header that I am paying for on my mother board. I know my phone needs one and it is the future more than likely I will use it to sneaker net a portable hard drive without having to reach around the back and unplug some peripheral. I like the idea of options. Also its a great case to build in. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAFFK6PP9470&nm_mc=AFC-C8JunctionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10592396&PID=3938566&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker%2C+LLC DRam: I am not super familiar with your exact build but I will say check the QVL from both mother board manufacturer and the DRam Supplier. Part-picker is also a good resource for this information. Gskill has a fantastic QVL and has designed ram for RYZEN. Mother board: things I like. ASUS ROG STRIX X399-E https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X399-E-GAMING/specifications/ Its ASUS. I have had fantastic service and luck with this company. Two m.2 slots plus the u.2 stuff 4 x PCIe 3.0 x16 (single@x16, dual@x16/x16, triple@x16/x16/x8 mode) Seems like a solid foundation. X399 Taichi https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X399%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification Its also ASUS or its cousin but I have never built with these boards. Simply put this board seems better but I haven't researched it. Three m.2 slots plus the u.2 stuff I would definitely look into it as it seems like a solid suggestion from Nikolaos. I was going down the thread ripper path earlier this year and was super interested in the X399 DESIGNARE EX. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X399-DESIGNARE-EX-rev-10#kf I decided to hold off until the next round of RYZEN processor drops and build a kitted out 1800x for now I will settle on 8 cores. Also by building a year behind I know all about any issues and the bios updates are settled or settling. Then I discovered the WS-C621E-SAGE. https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/WS-C621E-SAGE/ So I am building a Ryzen 1800x this that will be a great working machine and rip up anything I throw at it be expandable without having to buy parts twice. "Ie: Processor upgrade bad." in the mean time. That said my machine is still going to cost me $6000.00 before my new 4k monitor and office renovations. https://www.benq.com/en/monitor/designer/pd3200u.html Why? Daul inputs and KVM. I hope I have helped a bit. I have been building myself computers since the early 90's so I know the excitement of commitment to a new build and the magic of when it all comes together. I have made a few mistakes and they can be summed up under the same header. "Shortsightedness " So here are few suggestions: 1. If you are building a first class rig you need to get a UPS (Uninterruptible power supply) for sure. Do your research as some UPS's Don't play nice with some Power-supplies and can cause more damage. Send off an email to the manufacturer and get a suggestion. (see 2) Get one rated at as close to double your average voltage draw. Make sure to replace the batteries as per instruction Think of it as an investment and a part of your build budget. I have lost thousands of dollars in gear in a single second during a thunder storm. 2. When you are shopping on line and in the real world and are not sure about a product or company come up with a (dumb) question and ask them directly. You can learn allot about them. How quickly do they respond? What kind of answer do they provide. Are they trying to up-sell you? If they treat you like garbage pre-sale how do you think they are going to deal with you after they have your money. 3. Do your own research. You tube has review videos for pretty much everything. Tech quickies will give you an idea of what they are talking about and deep dive information on individual products. Watch a few on any given subject a lot of these guys are self appointed pros so even though they are doing there best to bring you good information... 4. Go big and empty or go home. What I mean by that is if you have 8 memory slots and you have budget concerns use bigger SIMS for example two 16GB SIMS instead of eight 4GB SIMS Unless you need to have your slots populated to provide for your buses. Research!!! Ram prices will go down over time. Saving $20.00 now can translate into tossing out perfectly good ram for bigger ram. That cam cost you way more down the road. 5. Go for the biggest Processor you cant afford. See above for the gist of this advice. The two things in your build that wont change are you processor and motherboard. The thing about Computers is that they tend to stick around. If you plan ahead this machine could end up being part of your render net work then eventually the one you use in the garage to play music during barb-ques. If you stick it full of current tech i could cost you tens of thousands but generally prices fall sharply after 5 years. As an old crusty I can go on. But I wont. Happy building and "Render like the wind my son, render like the wind!" C
  2. Hey folks I am posting this question and scattering it around the internet on a few different forums in hopes that someone will take it upon themselves to come back with some sort of answer for me. I am asking this question in terms of a purchasing decision specifically concerning M.2 NVMe 3.0 x4 and Samsung’s EVO and PRO offerings. I am also only interested in capacities over 1TB version 960 or 970 or a combination of them. The motherboard I have purchased has two slots which I will fill as I can afford them so this is not a question of either or but of planning to maximize my systems resources practically without over spending. https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-EXTREME/ Here is what I know or at least pretend to understand. MLC flash memory is better than TLC flash memory because: 1. It’s faster than TLC 2. It’s able to run file transfers without taking a breath. Therefore, it does not bottle neck or stall. 3. Has a better warranty TLC Memory is: 1. Plenty fast 2. Considerably less expensive 3. Will only sustain transfer as long as its (Frankly huge) buffer will allow. So that known some people need Pro/MLC it’s a no brainer for them. I could see it being a significant advantage in server applications or anytime you want to move huge files. Though I do move big files often I am not sure I am willing to spend an extra grand to transfer data between two work drives. More than likely I will be transferring the biggest of my files though a sata 6 bottle neck to a regular yet fast ssd drive like a 2TB Crucial MX500 or 2TB Seagate FireCuda for back up or for fetching rescources. For me the main focus of this machine is a 3ds Max workstation. As a freelance digital art generalist I do work on a wide variety of projects that include a very wide variety of software and rendering tools. These include but are not limited to: 1. 3DS Max 2. Cinema 4d 3. The whole of the adobe Suite with a focus on After Effects, Photoshop and illustrator 4. Real Flow 5. Cinema 4D 6. Marmoset tool bag 7. Unreal and soon Unreal Studio 8. Unity 9. Zbrush 10. Key Shot 11. Substance designer in all of its forms 12. Marvellous Designer 13. Auto Cad (mostly for fixing things for Import) 14. I use Vray and other renderers depending on the finish I am looking for 15. Davinci resolve I have other machines that I use for everyday stuff like the web bookkeeping and media and a hillbilly network (I am a certified lefty hick so no offence to my neighbors). I am moving toward a NAS based set up but that is a moving target right now. Work can get in the way of best intentions. You get the Idea. Rendering is a huge part of my workflow. I like to pre-render by element then assemble final render in post so I have the most control of the finished product. So think many layers and multiple render passes. Here is what I am thinking as far how I will set up my system. The boot drive will hold all of my software, two decades worth of custom hand crafted texture maps, my custom animated alpha’s and other render time elements. All of my 3d and 2d kit and reference will sit either on a reference 2TB mx500 or on my media machine and be accessible via network or residentially respectively. The second NVMe drive will be all about Swap or as the kids say cache and as a target for output. You can be sure that I am interested in hearing about what you think would be the optimum workstation. So feel free to shoot me suggestions
  3. I almost agree with you about the workstation card thing but I suggested the AMD WX 7100 (which out performed the Nividia) which could be got for around $650.00 CAD. So yes buying a $1100.00 Quadro that may seem steep. But lets say you are doing 3d and pulling around verticies so you get good polygon flow and perhaps want to unhide all of your model and spin it around without having to get up and do somthing else while your screen is frozen. AMD WX7100. no one even mentioned Quadro. http://www.develop3d.com/hardware/radeon-wx7100-cad-viz-vr-workstation-solidworks-3dsmax-vred-steam-vrmark https://pro.radeon.com/en/product/wx-series/radeon-pro-wx-7100/ All that said I am still doing reasearch
  4. I Agree with Building a Ryzen based machine. As far as your video card have you looked at the AMD wx7100. https://pro.radeon.com/en/product/wx-series/radeon-pro-wx-7100 The thing is that for a workstation you kinda need a workstation card. The deal with any Nivida based card that isn't a quadro or a pro workstation card when you get into something like maya or max and I am going to guess Cad they don't have the accuracy that you need. That is why they are always going to be sluggish when comes to pulling things like vertices in cartesian space especially when things get large and crazy Gaming cards are for translating pre determined then flattened out meshes into fast pixels so you can blast things or whatever. Workstation cards have double redundancy checks and what not so you can tool around in 3d space and actually see an very accurate representation of whatever it is you are building way faster than any gaming card. The problem is that a pro Quadro card is going to set you back serious coin and it is not going to improve your gaming. The radeon-pro-wx-7100 is VR ready and reasonable. You can always stick a gaming card in your machine for down time.
  5. Last time I actually paid for a new computer I built if my self. Should I bother? I actually enjoy the whole opening the boxes up in my studio and putting it together. This time I don't have the luxury of time. What out of the box machine should I consider. I use a combination of Auto Cad, 3ds Max and After effects plus all of the standard things like photo shop and dream weaver. I am willing to spend about $1500.00 no monitor just a box.
  6. I was here in search of advice not long ago (actually quite some time ago considering this is the longest I have been without a computer or high speed of my own for many years) looking for some advice on hyper threading as I was planning to build a system. Well I am back both to thank you for all the advice I received (some of it I took some of it I ignored but all of it I appreciated) while seeking more. Please excuse the lamness of my questions but with your help I may be able to escape the embarassment of having to bring in my system for the IT guys to fix when I start my next project the end of next month. I assure you that I make good art. I have just recently purchased the components for a new system Iwill P4HT i845PE, 6ch, LAN, DDR333, Motherboard Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz 478/533 Socket, (512K) 2x 512MB DDR PC-2700 64X64 333MHz 184PIN ATI Radeon 8500 All-In-Wonder 128MB DDR AGP4 On channel one of the Dual channel ATA 100/66/33 IDE from Intel® 845PE chipset Master LiteOn 48X12X48X CD-RW, 1800 kb/s, 2MB, 80ms, IDE, Int., Slave LiteOn 16X DVD-ROM, 22160 kb/s, 100ms, IDE, Int., On channel one of the Dual channel ATA/133 IDE from on board PROMISE PDC20275 Master MAXTOR DIAMONDMAX PLUS 9 60GB 7200RPM 2MB ATA133 OEM W/ FDB Slave 80 gig Maxtor d740x-6l Ata 133 PCI slot 3 aopen 56k modem (I am on sabbatical in the country so I cannot get high speed from my house) slot 3 for airflow. Can you believe along with a very cool with temp gauges case some fans wireless key board and mouse taxes and delivery I came in at about $1700.00 canadian peso's thats about $1000.00 us I have assembled everything and it has not blown up in fact every thing seems fine so far. My system is posting and I can see my CD & DVD drives but nothing else. I still need to format both my hard drives, as everything is new. I am getting error “ Floppy disk(s) fail 40” So I am unable to format my hard drives. So I am unable to load my operating system Win 2000 pro service pack 2. I am a willing to do my own fishing so if there are any web sites that I could use please feel free to pass them on. Mean while my questions are thus: 1st. Is there any place on the web where I can find out what the Phoenix workstation Award BIOS codes mean i.e.: floppy disk(s) fail 40. 2nd. I received two IDE cables one with a yellow end, and one with a blue end; which one is Ata 133? How do you tell the difference? 3rd. What is up with the fact that I cannot down load the newest bios or email you with the form they provide on the IWILL corporate site. 4th. Have the problems with the audio been fixed / solved? i.e.: the alleged problems with the mouse and the audio freeze. 5th. Is there any way to page down through the bios set-up? 6th. Is it because I have not formatted my hard drives that I cannot see them when I post? I am going to pick up a new floppy drive as I gather that the one I am attempting to install is not being recognised. I had it checked on another system so I am confident it should be fine. I will reconfigure my system and move my drives around though I was hoping to use the faster Ata 133 for my hard drives. Eventually I would like a pair of 8 Meg buffer 120gig or bigger hard disks on channel 2. This was one of the reasons I chose this particular board. I am planning on using this machine for new media content production such as graphics, digital video, 3d animation, web site creation and some light audio editing. I am a freelance multidiscipline professional artist. I am one of those people that show up in perfectly respectable architectural firm, film or advertising offices covered in paint to speak to the clients i.e. president of the corporation. I have been around the new media entertainment communications industries for some time and I have bought around 1.3 computers per year over the last 9 years. Yes I spent $4000.00 on a P 90 no CD burner no printer back in the 90’s. I actually went to school for computer animation. Any way my last system blew up in my move so tool using being my most intrinsic characteristic I decided to build my own. I am starting with this straight P4 system and I am having so much damn fun I am already in planning out a dual xenon system I would like to build this summer. Oh its going to be water-cooled In a big ass full tower with an 450 watt power supply but I digress one system at a time. Any way if any one could lend some insight into my newbie dilemmas I promise I will pass on the knowledge to someone else down the road with similar aspirations. Charles 1-9-3-9 P.S. As I stated earlier I am a professional artist (I make my living making beautiful things) I am interested designing and air brushing a limited series of modded cases. **quizzy says: I've edited your post: do not advertise yourself!** [ March 20, 2003, 01:39 AM: Message edited by: quizzy ]
  7. thankyou all for your feed back I have read it all and appreciate the info.//I have made some descisions and am now starting to shop for my parts//if you know of any good resellers here in canada pass them on.//
  8. Mr Hess and company I was directed to this forum through max forums where I was searching for information on hyper threading and 3ds max. I had read some time ago when I casually researching new systems there was a problem with this technology and 3ds max. At that time I had a stable system I loved albeit slow but sound. Alas my poor old p3 550 died in a puff of smoke during a move of office. It is uncanny the range of emotions the slightly acrid smell of a low voltage fire can produce First there is that feeling of.... But, I digress I tried finding that particular article again but to no avail. I thought of posting inquiries as to what the perfect system would be and did I some interesting suggestions but though I alluded to my hyper threading question every one ignored that aspect of my query. I answered my own question partially by visiting Intel’s web site “The following desktop operating systems are not recommended for use with Hyper-Threading Technology. If you are using one of the following desktop operating systems, it is advised that you should disable Hyper-Threading Technology in the system BIOS Set-up program: Microsoft Windows 2000 (all versions)” My question is three fold 1. I am a die-hard believer in not jumping form one operating system to another. My last system ran windows 2000 pro (NT) and I was planning on sticking with it for a little while longer. I will eventually up grade but for now. If I buy a 3.6 gig chip (more like a 533MHz system bus: 2.40B GHz to start) and a GA-8INXP motherboard am I wasting my money? Am I better off buying last years tech 400mhz system FSB processor speed maxing out at 2.6 gigs and then planing on buying another machine in a years time when I switch to XP? Is my fear of XP ungrounded? 2. I am planning on building my own system (with the help of a very busy IT friend who I will not ask to venture into my mania without first doing my homework) what motherboard would you recommend for a p4 system? Req.usb2, fire wire, agp, intergrated sound, lots of speed. 3. Okay what would you recommend over all? WHY? I hope that my long windiness hasn’t over played my earnestness. However I have lots of time right now as I am awaiting in the land of the RMA for 3 brand new hard drives to replace the ones that died in the fire (along with several years of memories which you can never back up). Some times these things are for the best and I am glad that technology has come down in price. I have managed to make most of my system transitions fairly painless. The last time I paid this much attention to the computer I was buying it was a P 90 it cost me $4600.00 no printer no burner and the sales guy asked me what the hell I wanted a GIG of hard drive space for. But I do digress. Thank you very much in advance for your consideration of my ramblings. You came highly recommended. “He’s the dude” Charles A. Mulder P.S. If I do not respond to the forum input until the week end do not be alarmed as I am on the edge of overstaying my welcome on this machine.
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