illustration, rendering, visualization

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

illustration, rendering, visualization... ???

 

which do you do? why? each one conjures up a slightly different idea of what it should be, yet each is essentially the same thing.

[jvlive]

rendering seems mechanical(?), how should i put it...automatic(?) maybe i feel that way coz of the render button. but i think illustration and visualization implies design knowledge and input. a little bit more creativity. i'd rather be called a visualiser though. there's a certain coolness to the word.

[Videha]

hi

its a interesting thougth rendering means or can mean alot of things illustration sonts more like the hand thing

i call it Architectural Visualization

but late i played in my mind with Virtual Photographer

which in a way is what i try to do.

but i guess its a bit of a Mind.....

 

if you can live from it and have fun with it who cares

 

see ya

[STRAT]

i've always seen them as part of the same animal too. never look(ed) on them separately.

 

my official title in my firm is architectural visualiser. that encompasses everything visual. be it 2d "CAD Jockey" work, water colour painting, freehand sketching, or photoreal modelling/rendering. i'm not required to take photos though. although i do manipulate them.

[Juan Altieri]

i try to help people understand architecture projects

[JamesTaylor]

we do them all but ultimately we could say were idea communicators as thats why we produce the images

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

it has always been weird. there is no set term to really define it. my official title is visualization designer, but if someone asks me, i find it easiest to communicate what by telling them i am am employed as a illustrator, or i do illustrations. i have reffered to myself as a digital artist before, but that implies a different area than illustration.

 

i guess i like illustration because for me it conjures the idea of creating a space that takes the elements of the architecture, and adds real world envivroments, or circumstances, to create a scene. to me it suggests more than just creating an image that represents the building, it is creating an image that shows the building in a way that the client can see himself in in his mind.

 

..or maybe i just like the fact that arch illustration is a defined field or concept. it is easily tangible.

[STRAT]

you see, i'd have switched around your descriptions of visualiser and illustrator.

 

 

it's a hard life - peeps ask me what my job is and i ALWAYS struggle to get it over to them. i cant even tell them my job title as i officially havent got a recognised one. it always takes me 10 mins or so of explanations until they have the slightest incling of what i do. by that time they've totally lost all interested and wondered off anyway.

[ecastillor]

I would also add to our title, all of the things we end up doing for our clients(for free unfortunately):

 

* Interior decorator

* Landscape designer

* Urban Planner

* Illumination expert

* Art collector

* Mind reader

* And so on......

 

but serioulsly, I think we are in the bussines of visualization, regardless of what method we choose....and the rest are just tools to help our cients understand the space as it is in the real 3d world.

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

it always takes me 10 mins or so of explanations until they have the slightest incling of what i do. by that time they've totally lost all interested and wondered off anyway.

 

if i am in a hurry, i tell people 'i make pretty pictures' for a living, or i might tell them 'i make buildings look sexy'.

[bully712]

if i am in a hurry, i tell people 'i make pretty pictures' for a living, or i might tell them 'i make buildings look sexy'.

 

Congrats!!! You are my 100th Post!! LOL

 

I pretty much tell them the same thing if they don't understand what I'm trying to say. I also may tell them that " I make ugly buildings look good "

 

I tell people that I'm a " 3D Architectural Designer " Sometimes they lose interest before I finish saying it, and that's when " I create pretty pictures " comes in to play..

[Tim Nelson]

The best way I know how to describe it to people is to say "You know when you are driving past a construction site and you see the big billboard of what the building is supposed to look like when its done......Thats what I do." And then they usually get it.

[Jeff Mottle]

The best way I know how to describe it to people is to say "You know when you are driving past a construction site and you see the big billboard of what the building is supposed to look like when its done......Thats what I do." And then they usually get it.

 

HAHA, that's the same explanation I use. If I don't, people's eyes just glaze over when I try to explain. You should see what happens when my wifes tries to explain what I do..."he does the computer picture thingy and runs a website for that and....." LOL.

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

The best way I know how to describe it to people is to say "You know when you are driving past a construction site and you see the big billboard of what the building is supposed to look like when its done......Thats what I do." And then they usually get it.

 

i've been guilty of this one also.

[Ernest Burden III]

"You know when you are driving past a construction site and you see the big billboard of what the building is supposed to look like when its done......Thats what I do."

 

Me, too. I often resort to that explanation.

 

But what's the first term I use? Illustrator. I am an illustrator.

 

I only use 'renderer' in its ironic form. Between renderer friends, the term is used as a stand-in for 'slave', 'dupe' or 'I can't get my act together, so I keep doing renderings". I was once on a New York City street corner, and noticed a truck parked at the curb that was oozing dirty grease, and what did it have painted on the door? Rendering.

 

I guess my father was always the inovator, so he coined the term 'delineator'. His first major, and ultimately most successful, book, was called "Architectural Deliniations" I never adopted the term.

 

For me it's simple. I came into this field from the art end. I always wanted to be an illustrator, trained to be one, and I guess I am. Most of the rest of you came in through architecture, a field in which I have never had much interest. Making my entire career ironic.

[vizwhiz]

i Tell People That i am a "professional daydreamer"

i go to work and play with digital concepts and colors

 

mostly architectural designs

 

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i once held an architectural visualization Contest

 

"Daydreams by Moonlight"

"Daydreaming while Moonlighting"

 

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a Pixel Painter (?) of The Future Present

 

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Randy

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"its only a Pigment of your Imagination"

 

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some of my company names so far

 

Underground Gardening (i was so dirt poor)

BS Design (short for Brother Sanders Design)

SOB Buildings (somewhat obscure buildings)

 

presently

 

NTS Design, which explains my architectural and musical abilities

 

future ideas

 

Off-The-Grid Designs

Off-The-Wall Construction

[jtiscareno]

What about 3D Artist???

 

I once had a discussion with a friend about why did he and others differentiae it between traditional renderings techniques and the “new” digital techniques. Why was it what that they did consider artistic the traditional way and ours new digital was not consider artistic? He said because of the hand-eye connection while panting, etc. I told him that the only difference that I saw was of the “tools” we used, but we needed to have an “eye” for the same things such as: composition, color, light, entourage, perspective, etc.

 

But I do and I think that but what I read that we all agree that “renderings” is the least favorable name to call what we do. 3d illustrations, digital illustrations, 3d architectural visualizations, etc, is better to call what we do.

 

 

And for us:

 

3D Artist

Digital Illustrator

Architectural Visualizer (this is a bit weird to me)

 

 

Good discussion!

[Tim Nelson]

How about "Perspectivist"

 

Thats what we are called if you look at the ASAI sample contract.

[DelfoZ]

IP - interpret of realities

[Ernest Burden III]

How about "Perspectivist"

 

Thats what we are called if you look at the ASAI sample contract.

 

A word created by, I would guess, Steve Oles (one of the ASAP founders). No better than my father's 'delineator'. Of course the term 'perspectivist' was needed for the silly acronym ASAP - American Society of Architectural Perspectivists. What are they called now? ASAI, American Society of Architectural Illustrators. And the group I was President of for many years is the New York Society of Renderers.

 

I'm still just an illustrator.

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

while we are at it, i might as throw in the absolut worse one.. 3d guru. i cringe everytime i hear it.

[DennisHolland]

I'd say lets stick with 'architectural visualizer' or 'visualizer' or 'concept visualizer'. Renderer is not cool enough, perspectivist is more a sort of radical group (hey, there are a few perspectivists down the road...run while you can!) and illustrator is more claimed by cartoonists and such.

 

When I started in advertising, fresh from the academy, I was called a visualizer (in English). A visualizer back then was painting/illustrating storyboards to visualize and explain a tv-commercial or advertisement to the clients. That was a great time, with the Pantone-markerset and a bunch of Eddings in a cool aluminium case travelling from agency to agency.

 

It's true, a short and solid explanation of our jobs is a hard thing to do to someone who doesn't know. That is also quite difficult when you're cold calling potential prospects in construction and/or engineering. It's a proof that (the name of) our business is still in development and not established or recognised for the full 100%.

 

The most irritating part is that 'they' don't understand what we do for a living. How about the explanation where we ending up saying; 'You know those billboards with a building on it? That's what i do' is also true but very frustrating. I had it once when 'she' said to her friends 'hey, that guy is painting billboards'...that's the point where i go to the toilet, avoiding a riot!

 

Sounds familiair?

Dennis