gus_webb Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 I would love to see a Non-Photo Realistic section...not just renderings that look like hand-drawn images, but different ways of representation other than something approaching reality. More 'subjective' images are a huge help in early phases of design, when more complete renders might imply decisions that haven't yet been made, necessary in design competitions, and helpful for publications. I know some get posted in the WIP or Works Completed section, but its such a different mindset and skill set required to produce some of these that I'd be interested in seeing how other people handle them. If anyone else is interested I have some that I can post, but they're on my computer at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconbauhaus Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I'd be happy to see this it's own section too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I would love to see a Non-Photo Realistic section...not just renderings that look like hand-drawn images, but different ways of representation other than something approaching reality. More 'subjective' images are a huge help in early phases of design, when more complete renders might imply decisions that haven't yet been made, necessary in design competitions, and helpful for publications. I know some get posted in the WIP or Works Completed section, but its such a different mindset and skill set required to produce some of these that I'd be interested in seeing how other people handle them. . i don't know whether they need there own section or not, maybe. there is a tremendous value of presenting models that are extremely nice, but not photoreal. exactly like you said, they client often becomes nervous about something they are seeing, but will not say anything because they think it is to far along in the process. by the time they say something, you are well into working on that design. if they would have said something from the beginning, it would have helped. the design would have changed at an early stage to reflect their thoughts. the hand look NPR's tend to get a decent response in the finished or WIP section, but other images do not. often receiving an almost scolding because they look computer generated, when that may have been the intent. imo our work becomes so wound up in trying to look real that the architecture takes a back seat in our minds. maybe that is fine, but i don't think study models should be dismissed. think of all of the real sketch models that go into designing a building. you don't hire a professional model builder overtime you present to the client. you would go bankrupt quickly if you did. you present rough models that convey ideas, not models polished with trees and scale cars,complete with scale train grass. ect.. ect... so maybe their needs to be a forum on npr, maybe it needs to be a forum on renderings/modeling for design development. i don't think there is a strong enough following on this board for that. which means there would be little feedback. sorry for the random jumping message, no time to sort it out and make it more coherent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continuumx Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I would be interested in this section. One of my favorite artists right now is Syd Mead, I love the way he represents space and people. I want to take as much as I can from his craft to integrate into my own style. This would be wonderful addition to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 One of my favorite artists right now is Syd Mead One of my all-time favorites is Syd Mead. There is a lot to learn from him. I think one of the challenge #3 entries is very 'Syd-like' and plan to talk about that as I write the crits. However, let's leave NPR as it is--a part of the wide and varied visual language or architectural visualization. It does not need to be seperated, and doing so is a dis-service to all who try to do anything remotely creative beyond simply accepting whatever their software deigns to spit out. By the way--what would you call everthing else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Nelson Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 By the way--what would you call everthing else? D.illusion O.f R.ealism - D.I.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siliconbauhaus Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 syd mead is one of my heros! perhaps instead of a NPR forum maybe it should be called presentation techniques...it could cover all sorts of aspects then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 I never spent a lot of time looking at Syd Mead, but certainly someone who was influential to his work would be Radeburgh . He came up with a lot of the 'futuristic' illustrations that were popular from the 1930'2 to 1960's. Beautiful work... http://www.palaceofculture.org/radebaugh.html . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 My $.02- For me, a photorealistic rendering is any image that attempts to look like a photograph (simple enough, right?). Nonphotorealistic renderings, as generally defined, are intended to look like illustrations executed in some kind of natural media (ie watercolor, pastel, pen & ink, colored pencils, etc., etc. and any combination therein). I personally see a big bright line that separates the two, and am genuinely curious to hear some elaboration by those who feel differently... hopefully an explanation that doesn't devolve into philosophizing or murky abstraction. We see alot of photoreal stuff on this site, and very little of the NPR stuff (although those who do it here are practicing it at a very high level). There is obviously quite a bit of interest in NPR, though. It seems to be looked at as the 'next level' for those who are currently doing more photoreal work and want to diversify their offering. Wouldn't it just make sense to consider creating a separate section that explores NPR? What harm could it do? Posted in the spirit of good-natured inquiry, Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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