AJLynn Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 We get a lot of questions along the lines of "Which of these CPUs is faster" and "What's the best I can get on this budget", and I'd like to do some testing so we can have some more specific information on that. Also, I'm curious Anybody else interested? If you have a few minutes, please try this and post your results. It will require 3DS Max 7.0, and the tutorials CD that came with it (so we can standardize). If I get enough data I'll do some math with it. First, get a beer and some chili (chili optional, but it will help with standardization), kill any extraneous programs, then load Tutorials\radiosit\library_with_radiosity.max. Bring up the Render window, go to Advanced Lighting and under Radiosity, hit Reset All, then Start. When it's done, make note of the completion time (in the Statistic rollout, scroll down for that). Next, go to Common, change resolution to 2400x1800 (because render times in the 100-200 second range will be more informative and have less error than 30-50 seconds) and render. Make note of the render time. Now, load \Tutorial\mental_ray\mirrors.max, go to the Render window, change resolution to 2400x1800, render, and make note of the render time. (This will render in Mental Ray by default.) Then post the relevent information. I'll start. For the desktop: CPU: Athlon64 3000+ (2.01 GHz - the System control panel will give you the actual clock speed) Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo Platinum (nForce3-250 chipset) RAM: 1GB Corsair XMS, PC3200, 2.5-3-3-6 1t timing Video: Quadro4 900XGL 128MB, using Maxtreme 7 Radiosity Solution: 200 seconds Radiosity Render: 96 seconds Mental Ray Render: 206 seconds The laptop: Dell Precision M50 CPU: Pentium 4-M 2.4 (2.39 GHz) RAM: 1GB DDR266 Video: Quadro4 500 GoGL 64MB, using Maxtreme 7 Radiosity Solution: 276 seconds Radiosity Render: 150 Seconds Mental Ray Render: 295 Seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlkhl Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 dual amd mp@1995mhz pc2700ram1G@266mhz ati 9500pro 128mb radiosity time 2:44=164s radiosity rendering time 1:37=97s mentalray rendering time 2:12=132S Benq 7000 pm1.5Ghz 768mb ram ati mobility 9700 64mb radiosity time 4:36 =276s radiosity rendering time 6:54=414s mentalray rendering time 4:29=269s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Andrew i only have VIZ 4 can i still download These files from somewhere?? and Try To check This out also?? or is This a MAX ONLY assessment ?? idle curiousity i have a 1x 2.4 ghz w/2.0 gb ram it would be interesting To Try This Too Thanks Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioVOY Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 excelent idea, i dont have max 7, so i'll keep eye on the other people results. this is great to choosing the right system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catzzzpaws Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 I am very interested in benchmarks too. And I am also looking at how different software packages work with different hardware rigs. There is an excellent benchmark scene for Maya users at highend3D. I am not absolutely sure if it is ok and within forum rules if I post the link here - but as it is strictly on topic and not exactly advertising a website I'll just give it a try: http://www.highend3d.com/tests/maya/testcenter/download.3d. If administration here at cg-architect don't remove this posting, I will start to provide you with my rendercount on that scene. Cheers, Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted June 12, 2005 Author Share Posted June 12, 2005 Andrew i only have VIZ 4 can i still download These files from somewhere?? and Try To check This out also?? or is This a MAX ONLY assessment ?? idle curiousity i have a 1x 2.4 ghz w/2.0 gb ram it would be interesting To Try This Too Thanks Randy Ooh, good point, the problem is these files are provided in Max 7 format and Viz 4 won't open them. (Also, copyright would seem to keep my from posting them.) Also, I don't think Viz 4 has Mental Ray, but I do think the library radiosity has been around for a long time so you might actually have it. It looks like this: And the radiosity statistics tell me it has 650 geometric objects and 67 lights. Max 6 does have both these scenes in its tutorials, but oddly enough the library is provided as a .drf (Arch Desktop's Viz Render) file, which does open in Max and Viz now. Arch Desktop 2006 also gives you the file for Viz Render. But with both of these programs, the radiosity initial quality needs to be reset to 80%. So, NEW RULES: Use what software you have, so long as it's new enough to have the library, making sure that the radiosity quality is at 80%. Also do the mental ray one if your software has mental ray. And then when you post, say which software you were using. (Bold so people who skim will notice.) That way I can figure out how to correct for some versions being faster and/or doing less processing than others - on my desktop, Max7 takes 200 seconds to solve the radiosity but Viz Render for Arch Desktop 2006 only take 160! (I did try it in Max7 using the .drf file, and the time was the same.) So already we've learned a couple interesting things: Max and Viz Render radiosity engines differ. A PM 1.5 is as fast as a P4M 2.4 for radiosity and mental ray, but appears to be slow at running the default scanline renderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 hi There Andrew Thanks for your idea and efforts i do believe VIZ 4 has The Library scene i will look for That i have a 2x 2.8 ghz w/ 3 gb ram at work running VIZ 2005 which has Mental Ray so i will be able to check That out also ** i will contact BOXX or some other vendor who has the dual dual-core computers and see if There is a way we can get a "current" comparison using one of Those bad puppys ** somewhere i have some download Powerpoint info That shows the dual dual-core screaming past a 3.6 ghz completely blows a 3.6 off The map but i still want to get some independent confirmation using the files That you are suggesting for comparision ** Thanks again Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcampbell Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Radiosity Solution: 180 seconds Radiosity Render: 85 seconds Mental Ray Render: 186 seconds Athlon 64 3500 + (Venice Core) 2.25Ghz 2Gb DDR PC 3200 Abit AX8 Motherboard Gigabyte 6600GT 128Mb 4 x 80Gb Seagate SATA Drives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony cortez Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hi all, I'm coming up with some interesting numbers here: Dell Precision PWS670 2x Dual Core Intel® Xeon CPU 2.80GHz w/ HT 3.00GB of RAM nVidia Quadro FX 4500 radiosity time 1:18=78s radiosity rendering time 3:18=198s mentalray rendering time 1:11=71S XI Computer Corp 2x Dual Core AMD Opteron Processor 280, 2.41GHz 3.25 GB of Ram Nvidia Quadro FX 4500 radiosity time 2:02 =122s radiosity rendering time 1:21=81s mentalray rendering time 44s Dell Precision 650 2x Intel® Xeon CPU 3.2GHz w/HT 3.25 GB of RAM Nvidia Quadro FX 3000 radiosity time 2:35 =155s radiosity rendering time 2:05=125s mentalray rendering time 1:38=98s Seems to me, all the hype about AMDs are quite true. FYI I'm running Windows XP Pro and 3ds Max 8 SP1 Have a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonel Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 imho, there should be better to find a decent mRay/vRay scene for render than radiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 you guys shoutld try cinebench? Thats what we run in our office to to benchmark systems, it will go through single and multiprocessor, renders.... and tests your system performance for directX OpenGL and hardware renderings and specs it all out. Its a free download (45mb). Everythings build in and doesn't require everyone to have the same software, scene, software, and plugins. you litteraly download, run and post. http://www.cinebench.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Wow, this thread. I'd forgotten about it completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony cortez Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hey thanks for that link, we just got this new machine to test out, I was doing a search and this thread came up. So I'll get back with the results if anyone is still interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Workstation: Boxx 7400 dual 248 Opteron (single core) 2 gb ram Quadro FX 3400 (not that it matters) 74 gb raptor HD radiosity solution = 1:52 = 112 seconds radiosity rendering = 1:12 = 72 seconds mental ray rendering = 6:09 = 369 seconds cinebench: CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : dp Processor : opteron 248 MHz : 2.2 Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : xp pro Graphics Card : quadrofx 3400 Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 319 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 584 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.83 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 349 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1410 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2966 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 8.50 **************************************************** Laptop: Sager 8890 P4 - 3.2ghz 800fsb 1 gb ram ATI mobility Radeon 9600 XP Pro CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : tecton3d Processor : P4 800fsb 512 cache MHz : 3.2 Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : xp pro Graphics Card : radeon 9600 mobility Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 305 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 352 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.15 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 326 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1301 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2561 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 7.85 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 Got a new one - MacBook Pro 2GHz Duo dual-booting OSX and XP. Interestingly, when I run the same test in Windows XP and OSX on the same hardware, the render times are the same but XP beats the crap out of MacOS in display performance. In OSX the OpenGL test comes in at around 1190. Tried it on the P4-2.4 laptop with Quadro4 500 and got 220 rendering and 1556 OpenGL. The new ATI Mobility actually slightly underperforms the old Mobility but the interesting part is that neither of them is much slower than the QuadroFX 3400... CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : AJLynn Processor : MacBook Pro MHz : 2x2.0 Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : XP Pro SP2 Graphics Card : ATI x1600 256MB Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 294 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 541 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.84 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 343 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1378 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2539 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 7.40 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 After a little free tweaking with Ntune: CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : tecton3d Processor : Opteron 248 MHz : 2.2 @ 2.4 Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : xp pro Graphics Card : FX3400 Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 338 CB-CPU Rendering (Single CPU): 319 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 627 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 584 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.85 Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.83 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 359 CB-GFX Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 349 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1433 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1410 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 3302 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2966 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 9.19 OpenGL Speedup: 8.50 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvins_dad Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Our new Render Server RenderBOXX - 7104 w/ 3gb ram CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : AED Processor : Dual 270 (dual core) MHz : 1.99 ghz Number of CPUs : 4 Operating System : Windows XP Pro Graphics Card : ATI Rage XL PCI Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 295 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 930 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 3.16 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 339 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 236 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 137 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 0.70 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Wow. Very impressive render numbers. Also, I think that's the first one I've seen where the OpenGL Speedup is less than 1 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 He's using an integrated video card...and let me tell you, that is one SLOOOOOW video card. I pull those things out of old gateways all the time and see how far I can throw them down the hallway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 I know, but I remember when those ATIs were great cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvins_dad Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Yeah - that is the Render Server - so the said that the video cards don't need to be too powerfull. Besides the unit is probably 1" thick. LOL I gotta wonder though if it had a little beefier card would performance increase. I still need to my 5400 dual 265 Opteron (dual core) and post those numbers up - maybe after I meet tonite's deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvins_dad Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : AD Processor : BoXX 5404 MHz : 1.81ghz - dual core opteron 265 Number of CPUs : 4 Operating System : Windows XP Pro Graphics Card : Nvidia Quadro FX 3400 w/ 256mb Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 261 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 768 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 2.94 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 273 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1140 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2178 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 7.97 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DImageWorks Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 here are 2 of mine CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Processor : Dell Precision WorkStation 670 MHz : Pentium XEON 3.4G Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : Win XP Pro Graphics Card : NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400 128Mb **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 285 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 517 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.81 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 381 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1396 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 3632 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 9.54 //////////////////////////////////////////////////// Processor : Alienware MJ12 M7700A LAPTOP MHz : AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400 Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : Win XP Pro Graphics Card : NVIDIA Quadro FX Go1400 256MB **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 322 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 600 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.86 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 339 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1490 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 3716 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 10.96 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimopoulos_d Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Acer Aspire 5612 Wlmi CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : Dim Processor : Centrino DualCore 1.6Ghz MHz : 1,6Ghz Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : Xp Home Graphics Card : GeForce7300 Go Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 247 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 453 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.83 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 291 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1183 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2562 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 8.80 **************************************************** CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : Dim Processor : Intel DualCore 3Ghz MHz : 3Ghz Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : Xp Pro Graphics Card : GeForce 7800GT Resolution : Color Depth : **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 258 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 479 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.86 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 354 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1447 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 3591 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 10.15 **************************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 17, 2006 Author Share Posted May 17, 2006 I replaced the MacBook Pro with the 17" model. Long story. Big improvements. MacBook Pro 17" 2.16GHz: CINEBENCH 9.5 **************************************************** Tester : AJLynn Processor : MacBookPro17 MHz : 2.16x2 Number of CPUs : 2 Operating System : MacOSX 10.4.6 Graphics Card : ATI x1600 256MB Resolution : 1680x1050 Color Depth : 32BPP **************************************************** Rendering (Single CPU): 330 CB-CPU Rendering (Multiple CPU): 626 CB-CPU Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.90 Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 376 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1468 CB-GFX Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2840 CB-GFX OpenGL Speedup: 7.56 **************************************************** -------- Update: The Windows Cinebench scores on this are a bit odd - MacOSX repeatedly gets 626 in Rendering, Windows varies but doesn't go over 590. OpenGL varies from 2400 to 2800. One other tangential observation - I ran the render test repeatedly to see how hot the bottom of the case would get under heavy CPU use, and this is not at all scientific but it seems a bit cooler than the 15" model - makes sense, the case is larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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