skogskalle Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 hey guys! office building exterior, not my design. gonna be "printed" on a sign around 240x140 cm big... what resolution do you think It needs to be rendered in? I couldnt get hold of the printing-people today and Ive never done anything for that big printing before... any ideas? anyways... modeled in max, rendered with Vray. the big trees are bionatics, and the smaller ones + the bushes are modified versions of the trees STRAT posted here some time ago. I wasnt sure what the company would think of me posting this here, so I blurred their logotype. looks crappy I know... but better safe than sorry... deadline tomorrow... dont have time for any big changes, but id love some crits and comments... I know some of you are damn good with photoshop, so if you can give me some hints on how to make it look better in post then Im all ears! thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTaylor Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 my initial reaction is that the size of the cars in the foreground and the size of the people seems very strange. i can see that the road or pavement where they are walking is further away than the foreground road but it doesn't feel completely natural. maybe lose the cars (a little distracting imho) and move the walking people further to the left and right so we can see their feet touching the ground, this may help the scale of them a little and give more emphisis to the building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihabkal Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 giant cars and tiny people.... even if it's the camera causing this please rectify and correct.... the shrubs look weird with the fuzzy pixels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jucaro Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 7050x4125 pixels. you can print that in 240x140 cm @75dpi and it'll still look ok. if you want a higher dpi setting, just convert cm->inches and multiply that number by your target dpi. (100,200,300,600 dpi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skogskalle Posted July 5, 2005 Author Share Posted July 5, 2005 thanks for the fast replys! ihabkal and jat10005 - both the people and the cars are in correct scale.... but now that you mention it I can see what you mean... ill do a testrender without the cars later today and see how it looks... If I have time ill re-do the bushes too... jucaro - thanks man! 7050 pixles will have to do... or else the renders gonna take forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihabkal Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 we did a 4000 pixels wide image, and after 8 months, the client came back and he said he wanted to print it on a large board, If I remember, 40 feet wide or something. real big, the biggest I have heard of. and he wanted a huge rendering. so we asked for more money to rerender and relandscape. but he didn't want to pay. so we printed a portion of the rendering at the final size and we placed it 20 feet away and looked at it, and it looked fine. the distance of the viewer from the billboard means you don't have to have a 300 dpi image... I recall the final print was even 45 dpi or something like that. and we never had any complaints...turned out the viewers were going to be 40 feet away not 20, driving in their cars at 30 mph... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 If there's some time left, try to fill your horizon up with some more (bit darker green) trees. It will let the actual building stand out some more and will compliment the light colour of it a lot. About the cars, just delete 'm, instead put some more people in your rendered image. A little suggestion for post; try to dirt up the brownish stones a bit in PS (put an empty new layer on top, select the brown wall and use your cloud filter > fill percentage effectively). Hope it's not too late? Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioVOY Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 if is a exterior ad just 3000x2200px at 120dpi because you need some distance to see the whole image and with the distance the dpi decrease, for that size most of the plotters prints at 600x600dpi some to 1200x600dpi so the quality decrease even if you have a render at 300dpi. for bigger images you dont need lots of dpi just the correct amuont of pixels size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skogskalle Posted July 6, 2005 Author Share Posted July 6, 2005 thanks! Dennis - yup the cars are gone now, and there are some more people in there... Ill fill the horizon with some darker trees too, but I think ill just paint them in post after the final render. the brownish stone wall isnt stone at all, its wooden planks with some kind of metal stripe between them. it shows alot better when renderd in higher res... Ill give the wood material some slight glossy reflections... tried to make some new bushes using a particlesystem and lots and lots of instanced leaves... but it just looked weird so I think ill have to go with the ones in the render posted above anyways... starting the final render now, so Im afraid theres no time for more changes... but thanx alot everybody who posted! best regards Kalle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Hi Kalle, post your final okay? (not for crits, just curious) Good luck, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skogskalle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 ait... heres the final thing. decided to do a last minute NPR style version... which if nothing else made the low poly trees fit alot better with the rest of the model. The client will get both the normal render and the NPR to choose from.... rendered at 6000 pixels which is about 64 dpi when printed 240 cm wide. I really hope its enough. It shouldnt be a problem... youll never get close to the sign, and most people will only see it from their cars. thanks everyone for your input on this... heres the npr version + a closeup at almost fullsize... and dont be afraid to comment on this one just because its finished. I can always use your crits and comments on future projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTaylor Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 can we see the normal render too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skogskalle Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 sure... here it is [edit] + another close up of the npr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I like 'm both Kalle, There's actually not much difference between the npr and pr but as you've said, the painted bushes blend in more in the npr-style. So, if there's a choice to make, i'd say go for the npr just because of the harmony of it all and if there's a little loss on quality at billboardsize, due to the low dpi, then it's less noticable in npr Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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