Fernando Lino Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Hi, I have a GForceFX5200 128mb and I'd like to know if is it possible to convert my actual video card to quatro or something better? there is a software fot that...somebody knows if it works well? Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modivin Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 I have succesfully converted a Geforce3 into a Quadro DCC and a Geforce4 into a Quadro4 700 XGL. But I'm afraid that the SoftQuadro trick doesn't work with a GeForceFX yet. Maybe they will make a working patch for the FX line in the future. For more info click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 The last true Geforce to Quadro hack/modification was for Geforce3's. Starting with the Geforce4, Nvidia changed the transistor count on the Quadro's slightly, preventing a "full" quadro conversion. The only way to get full quadro features, is now to buy a quadro. There is no FX to Quadro FX hack, nor is there one planned. (The gpu's are now produced on seperate lines). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T' Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 me too, by using riva tuner and a patch script called softquadro4, you can simply patch your GPU detonator driver to a Quadro, no trick stuff, just a few steps that's it! im not sure about GF4 to Quadro4 :???: , but i have just convert my GF3 Ti200 to a Quadro DCC, and running MAXtreme and Powerdraft at the moment, what can i say... :angewink: riva tuner: www.guru3d.com/rivatuner MAXtreme for 3DS Max and Powerdraft for Autocad, both drivers available on HP website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulcalif Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 The softquadro patch for the GF4 series works great. I'm running a TI4600 and it benchamarks like a Quardro 900XGL If Greg is correct, and they did change the transistor count, I suspect it was only an internal chip id, which is circumvented by the patch. I think you can still get GF4 TI4800's for around $140, and it should would work on those. Paul [ October 02, 2003, 01:26 AM: Message edited by: Paulcalif ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Paul, There are still some differences. It doesn't really show up in max. But some of the features still don't work right after softquadro. You do get maxtreme working though (which is sometimes the main point of the whole patch). I could go and dig up the list of what it doesn't do if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgarcia Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 man I can't get my geforce3 ti500 to convert....I gave up after 2 hours of installing, patching, reinstalling.... Any one with GeForce3 have a step by step guide of what they did to convert to quadro. I'm using Nvidia Detonator 44.03 - do I need to get older drivers? Thanks. ---edit---- N/M - I got it to work. Only thing is that my advanced display properties tab is still Ti500 - but when I run SiSift Sandra it shows as quadro dcc. Maxtreme and Powerdraft are awesome for Max and autocad. Wow what a difference from stock GF3 Ti500. Now if I could just afford a quadro fx1000! [ October 03, 2003, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: xgarcia ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulcalif Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Greg, no need. I was just stoked that it worked as well as it did--makes a huge difference. The Max UI is so slow compared to the Dos version. It feels like I'm using R4 with the liquid speed driver again. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Kessler Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Per SQ4 patch script: This script allows you to block the protection against PCI DeviceID modification on NV17/NV25 and unlock the most of professional features on these graphics processors on the Detonator 27.00 - 42.51. I currently use 42.01 on my GF4Ti4200 and it works like a dream with 3dsmax and Maxextreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 I found better explanation and tutorial here than guru3d for newbies like me. nworld I have Chaintech Ti4200 (NV28) , the display driver shown as Quadro 780XL in windows2000 using 43.03 drivers but I could not load the maxtreme drivers. After I switched to Detenator 41.03 drivers and installed as Quadro 750xgl. Looks like working and a lot faster than my old drivers as ti4200. Max started to crash more than usual. Anyone has idea ? Thanks a lot... [ October 06, 2003, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: muzzy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperDanJelly Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Confirmation, it works like a charm ! but only for Gforce4 (and predecessors). Mine is GForce4 ti4600 -> 900 XGL. You are right, some settings are missing and it works great only if you disable some things in the detonator openGL interface (as written in nvworld.ru). Latest maxtreme gives this solution better improvements. No development for FX this days, and for Gforce 4, prefer the 41.09 detonator version, more stable. Beginning at 42.7, it's locked, cannot expand the files so cannot apply any patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzy Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Thanks 41.09 driver works better and installs as 780xgl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperDanJelly Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 hi, some news from yesterday : GForce FX -> Quadro FX yes it works with some restrictions based on the chip (NV30,...,NVxx). In a few words, if you have a FX5800 or 5800 Ultra, you will get the quadro FX 2000 performances. Anyway, find all you need to softmode it and explanations of witch card is modeable here : http://www.guru3d.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=18 yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperDanJelly Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 just wanted to add that it works like a charm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Lino Posted October 27, 2003 Author Share Posted October 27, 2003 Good news....but I can't tweak it...when I check the properties looks ok (Quatro FX 500) but on my Advanced tools I still have Gforce fx 5200. do you have any idea about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 you guys must have nerves of steel. NV's SQ4 protection system seems to be screwed for some boards in these drivers. Currently I've tried to use SQ4/NVStrap/NVStrap antiprotection for NV18 (the protection seems to work fine, OGL applications cause PC lockup during OGL context destruction) and NV30 (the protection doesn't work). I've also tried to update SQ4 for newer drivers and modded NV30 seems to work fine on 45.xx drivers too. In 5x.xx drivers modded NV30 behaves the same as GF4 - the OGL applications cause PC lockup. So the protection seems to be fixed. I'm not pretty sure if the hole in protection system is NV3x specific or it applies to some NV17/18/25/28. i like the opengl lockup part... i still stand to my statement that softquadro does not work with geforce 4 cards. even after a successful conversion, the speed of a converted geforce doesn't come near to a quadro with wireframes. the 95% thing is simply not true. apart from that the maxtreme driver behaves very unstable with softquadro and periodically crashes. i feel safe to make such generalized statements because i tried it on quite a few different systems. please don't hack drivers if you are making your living with the computer, and don't blame the application (esp. 3dsmax) for resulting crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperDanJelly Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 false, i did it and it works, my benchs can prove the increase in performance and go there : http://www.guru3d.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=18 you will see a lot of guys for who it works. Also, to make a proper 'modding', read carefully instructions here for Ti4xxx : http://www.nvworld.ru/docs/sq4e.html and jump into the forum to see why some cannot while other can achieve. Usually it's just a question of settings. My specViewperf 7.1 results where done with Anti aliasing x 16 and anisotropy x 8 when disabling this, results are : ---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT 3dsmax-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 24.39 ---------- SUM_RESULTS\DRV\SUMMARY.TXT drv-09 Weighted Geometric Mean = 135.1 ---------- SUM_RESULTS\DX\SUMMARY.TXT dx-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 122.8 ---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT light-06 Weighted Geometric Mean = 27.33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltaire_ira Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 HI, i'm using a nvidia geforce 5600fx.is there any way to hack/convert it into a quadro?please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salf Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 is it the video card that important when talking about architectural CG ? I mean, of course it will be better to have a GeFOrceFX 128mb over an old Geforce2 32 mb, but, when you guys talk about switching from a GeForce 4 to GeFOrceFX, or from GeFOrceFX to Quatro, is there a big improvement in rendering? When im not working, on my free time, i play PC games, in that case the vidcard is extremely important, but in terms of Arhitectural renderings, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Video cards don't effect render performance. They effect viewport interactivity. When u get into large architectural models, a good video card is essential...otherwise you'll go bald prematurely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltaire_ira Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 hi, i successfully changed my geforce 5600fx to a quadro 980xgl using rivatuner and softquadro4. problem is that my maximum monitor size is only 800x600.my monitor would go "out of range" if i increase resolution.is there any way i could increase resolution using my old monitor through settings in rivatuner or am i in the mercy of buying a new high res monitor? how can i also convert my card to a quadro3000fx?i need the exact procedure.please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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