Brian Cassil Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Here's an image I'm doing for the "Dream House" contest at 3DAllusions. I still need to do the vegetation. I thought I would post a wip here to get any sort of helpfull C&C that I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msamir Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I'm sorry to say that i dont like the outside texture of the house ,it looks like a mapping error and is there a closer shot ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 I'm sorry to say that i dont like the outside texture of the house ,it looks like a mapping error and is there a closer shot ?? Really? Because I'm lovin it! But I appreciate the opinion anyway. It's supposed to look like strips of rusted metal. Yeah I do have a closer shot. BTW, many of you may recognize that this is based heavily on the architecture of Rick Joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msamir Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Well the closer shot showed it better than the far one anyway the roof texture in the closer shot looks flat ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 i like the rusted material. i am not sure about the building behind the house to the left. at first it reminded me of a small camping trailer on wheels or concrete blocks. the one on stilts to the right does not bother me. overall though, i would like to live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Fantastic! Darker, more contrast for the city in mid-background, and darker, more saturated (maybe prrple) but not more contrasty foreground rocks. Otherwise, darned swell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliviercampagne Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 nice image and nice design ! but do i see a campfire in front ? maybe you can introduce some vegetations arround ( maybe in your plan...) also put some peoples carefuly placed ( also problably in your plan)... maybe i would lower a bit the camera... when is the deadline ? good luck !! Olivier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 looks really good brian. i really really like your lighting. perfect tones! not sre how close you are going to get for the final product, but if you do here are my thoughts. i do like your strips of rusted metal. if they are strips i think we should see some more bump between the strips, not just the ripply bumps you currently have. the bump just makes it look like one solid sheet. i love you stone work on the outside ground. i might suggest some bump on those flat stones though. i love the shapes, they just seam too perfectly chizzled at this point. like you said, the vegitation will add a lot of depth, especially if you can pull off a gradual blend into the misy background. keep posting wips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 Excellent comments everyone, thanks! i am not sure about the building behind the house to the left. at first it reminded me of a small camping trailer on wheels or concrete blocks. Having grown up in the desert, I know that the camper on cinder blocks is more typical of a desert home than what I have shown, but the back left structure is actually meant to be a artist studio. Darker, more contrast for the city in mid-background, and darker, more saturated (maybe prrple) but not more contrasty foreground rocks. Great ideas! I'll plan on doing all that but probably not untill post. but do i see a campfire in front ? maybe you can introduce some vegetations arround ( maybe in your plan...) also put some peoples carefuly placed ( also problably in your plan)... maybe i would lower a bit the camera... when is the deadline ? The fire is more like a fire-pit, which isn't all that uncommon in high desert homes (it actually can get quite cold at night). I'm working on the vegetation now, but I don't have any plans on adding people right now, maybe I'll try it in post. Hmmm, lower camera angle would mean lowering the rocks, and the terrain, and changing up all the vegetation... probably not going to happen. Deadline is the Aug 5th, but since I'll be at Siggraph 1-4, I'll need to get it done in the next day or two. Tim, I think the extra bumpyness to some of the textures will show up better in the final images. I'll try to address the mist or dust in post as well by rendering a z-depth element. Here's some vegetation, there will be more. I've turned the interior furniture off as well as the displacement to speed up rendering at this point. Also, I'm having a hard time getting the shrubs shadow planes to cast shadows properly so I guess I'll PS them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 looks even better with the veg. don't change your camera view (i'm sure you weren't planning on it). i usually don't like bird's eye views, but with your terrain as part of your foreground and suvh a killer background, i love the camera angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliviercampagne Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 hi Brian yes it is better with the vegetation.. specially around the house. I am not sure about the tall cactus all around. Maybe less is enough and more dryed lower bushes. and maybe a desert fox ( ) yes i was not against the campfire, i think it is really nice and that's bringing another layer to the image and then maybe you can play with it to place peoples.. not necerally around it but just try to tell a story by the way you place them... i leave it to your imagination... a scene from a movie or something.. it will bring depth to the image and let the viewer believe in it... more wip !!! Olivier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 maybe a desert fox ( ) How bout this little guy instead! I think I'm ready to render the final base image and the different elements for compositing. I'll post those in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Nelson Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I think it looks great. To me though, it's bordering on just a little too dark - even on my lcd. I just want to see more of the environment I think, even though I know that the real showcase should be the house. Adding some more colored environment/ambient light would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 How bout this little guy instead! He's cute. But way too much vegitation for my tastes. The starkness of the first post is really nice. Don't make it aboput cactii, make it about rock, house and evening fire. How about a few sparks rising up to mix with the city sparkle--a great tie-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 He's cute. But way too much vegitation for my tastes. The starkness of the first post is really nice. Don't make it aboput cactii, make it about rock, house and evening fire. How about a few sparks rising up to mix with the city sparkle--a great tie-in. Hmmm... I'm gonna have to think about the cacti, especially since that's the second comment about there being too many... but the sparks idea is killer! I'm on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebjos Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 I think if you removed some of the cacti in the back and distance itd be much better off, however the ones closeup and immediately around the house are excellent imo, especially if you are basing it off of some of rick joy's work. He really tries to work his footprints around the desert doing minimal/no damage to the environment... so if you could even put smaller desert shrubbery around the house without taking away from the focus of the house that would give it more authenticity. Really great render. check out rick joy's palmer house in Tuscon AZ. A great example of many of his characteristics that make him a great up and coming architect. nice job... great images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Well, I've been struggling with the placement of the cacti and desert shrubs for a while now. I'm not sure if it's just right yet or not, but it's going to have to do. I think it's better at any rate. This is my final wip, I still need to do all the compositing and enhancements, like creating shadows for the shrubs, giving the cacti some subtle highlights, adding the fire and sparks, and maybe some people. I hope the final finishes rendering before too long so I can do all that stuff at lunch today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebjos Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 I think that last render is nice, but seems a bit dark on my screen, cant really make much out except for the stuff that is actively illuminated. I think the vegitation looks great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 must be your screen. the mood of the lights is just right. it matches the background perfectly. not so typical in cg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Alright, here are the images for compositing. They didn't take all that long to render at 2133 wide and all of were done automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Here's a custom mask I rendered that I'll use for adding some highlights to the vegetation with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 Here's the finished image, I'll try to post a link to the high res versions tommorrow. Let me know what you all think, even if you think it stinks... so long as you tell my why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliviercampagne Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 hey this one is great ! After seeing the entries for the contest, you have something there ! good luck ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jago_0108 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Nothing but.......exellent!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 good job brian. this is for sure among you best that i've seen. i bet it was fun to work on a relatively simple structure so you could spend more time on the composition and stuff. when the though of peeps came up in earlier posts i hesitated, but i think these work perfect. the light is hitting them just right. i take it your back from sigraph? we'll have to catch up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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