Richard McCarthy Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Hello guys! Recently, I have bought a new system, and upon setting it up, I found out that my Prolink GF4 Ti4200 card give out poor quality on-screen display (poorly designed filter/ramdac), so, I return the card, and bought new card. The card I got is Leadtek Ti4200 A280LE, and it's has been an amazing card, since it gives out superb and sharp display. The problem now, I encounter, is that this card is suppose to run FAR BETTER or on par with the Proink Ti4200, but the 3Dmarks 2001SE scores shows that, my Prolink scores at 11328, while the Leadtek runs at 7015 (?!). My other system have I also runs a test on 3Dmark, with a GF4 MX card, and that card runs at 5911. As you can see, this card runs at HALF the speed it's suppose to be. I swap the card to the old computer with the GF4MX inside, and run the test again, and found that the card RUNS FINE at it's full glory (3Dmark2001 Score = 11721) Now, the problem seems to be nail down to the motherboard. I later found out I do not have an "AGP to PCI bridge"?.. basically, AGP is not turn on at all. I have tried to turn everything AGP related on, and set AGP to 8X, but Riva Turner says otherwise.. it stills grays out. Anyone know what's going on? or have similar problem? My system setup is : Athlon XP 2600+, running at 2.09 Ghz Jetway nVidia nForce2 ULTRA 400 motherboard Leadtek A280LE MyViVO TDH (GF4 Ti4200) DirectX 9b nVidia Detonator Driver v45.23 nVidia nForce2 Driver v2.45 512mb (256x2) DDR333 Ram running @ dual channel mode Thanks in advance -RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 Hey Richard, Did you move the hd over from the old system? Or did you do a completely fresh install? If you didn't...that could be one of the problems. What does sisoft sandra say about your agp ports? Also make sure that video card is FIRMLY inserted in the AGP slot (with machine off). Its actually possible that a loose agp card can work, but performance really crappily if its even slightly loose. Make sure that sucker is fully in the slot (with machine off). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard McCarthy Posted August 27, 2003 Author Share Posted August 27, 2003 I think I have to do a fresh reinstall after all. The nvidia tab in the display menu says AGP is disabled. And AGP port is in PCI mode!... I guess that AGP to PCI host bridge thing I deleted accidentally must have been something real important.. -RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard McCarthy Posted August 28, 2003 Author Share Posted August 28, 2003 This is becoming a real headache..and BEYOND.. I have just done the fresh OS reinstall... and same problem presisted. AGP just can't be enabled because as soon as I enable AGP, system would freeze when running 3D application. I have tried all kinds of BIOS update, drivers, same problem. Right now it can only be running in PCI Mode. I am consider to return the whole damn thing to the store and get a refund.... -RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Is anything in PCI slot 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard McCarthy Posted August 30, 2003 Author Share Posted August 30, 2003 Hi Guys! I have solve my problem finally... It turns out after much chatting with friends, I found out that AGP uses A LOT of power, hence there is a possibility of this JETWAY motherboard not feeding enough power to the AGP slot. After considering the option of swapping the motherboard or the power supply ( I have 300 watts power supply), I choose to swap for a new different brand motherboard. The new motherboard (ASUS A7N8X-X nForce2 400 Mobo) is terrific. Almost plug and play.. after installing everything back in, it just went like a breeze. and the AGP problem is gone. Now it's running in 8X of all it's glory! So, I guess the lesson I learn here is : 1.AGP DO NEED A LOT OF POWER (some graphic card like Ti4200 draws quite a bit of power) 2. and a GOOD motherboard maker make sure there are enough power supplies to the AGP slot. 3. And NEVER BUY a JETWAY (SHITWAY)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 After reading your post I looked at mine Albatron TI4600 and it also says BUS AGP (pci mode). My board is an Abit KG7-RAID. What should the mode be for this card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard McCarthy Posted August 31, 2003 Author Share Posted August 31, 2003 Where did you see that "PCI mode"?.. is that from the "hardware options menu" of the nVidia menu..? If it says AGP Rate is Disabled (or PCI mode) and the AGP Setting Menu says "AGP is Disabled" Then, you probably have the same problem as I have. Either your power supply is under power (300 watt just ain't enough nowadays is what I heard ppl saying) or the motherboard is not good enough to supply enough juicy to the AGP board. Originally posted by Tony: After reading your post I looked at mine Albatron TI4600 and it also says BUS AGP (pci mode). My board is an Abit KG7-RAID. What should the mode be for this card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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