seismograph Posted November 17, 2002 Share Posted November 17, 2002 The price of a 19 tft(samsung 191t) is now like a 21crt 2-3 years ago and so the question for me is if a tft is a good choice if i want to buy a new monitor. An old problem with tft seems to be the colors and the brightness of the display if you use it for photoshop and other truecolors applications. ok.. the monitor will be the second monitor in a dualscreen solution. Now the question for me is, if i could do some CAD work or 3dsmax with an tft too without getting angry about the way a tft displays wireframes. I personally know from older generations of tft's that it wasn't nice to work with acad on that displays. I also think that hardwareAA on 3D cards aren't good enough(know it on a Quadro,FireGL and VP780) since the lines are often too thick. I would be happy to hear some opinions,If someone have any expierences with the new generation of tft's. [ January 04, 2003, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: seismograph ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingo Posted November 17, 2002 Share Posted November 17, 2002 Hi Christian, from my experience with Apple's Cinema display i can only recommend TFT displays. My colleague is using the 21" Cinema display and the colors are nice and bright, with only slight colorshift when viewing from extrem angles. I would recommend taking a close look at the desired display, especially if there is any color shift or light shift when you view it from different angles, and take a close look at the backround lighting. Some displays have not enough backlight or the backlights are placed so bad that you have dark zones on the screen. HTH ingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted November 17, 2002 Share Posted November 17, 2002 You only have to use a TFT for a day or so to realize the enormous potential. Mainly you are no where near as tired or cranky . Even at 85 Hertz a CRT is no match for the comfort of use of a LCD. Maybe its the lack of secondary radiation sources...who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seismograph Posted November 17, 2002 Author Share Posted November 17, 2002 I know , tft is colorfull and bright and blah blah blah (forget colorcalibration technology!)... , but does it make sense to use a tft with CAD software when the display have to draw mostly lines, polylines or a 3d wireframe. This is a question of ergonomic. On a CRT you get antialised lines for free since the mask will blur the lines.. but on TFT there is only one resolution and my question was if the newer TFT's with pixelsizes of ~0,28mm are fine enough to let you work 24 hours the day without become dissatisfied. And to add one more ergonomical point: the brighter the display the more it become a stressfactor and you also become much earlier tiresome. again, i'm talking about CAD and not viewing colorfull webpages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic Posted November 17, 2002 Share Posted November 17, 2002 there is one huge problem with cad and tft's. bright 1pixel lines on black background (autocad style) disappear when they are in movement. (viewport panning, zooming) personally i'm a huge fan of tft's. i can live with that, and the other small disadvantages. by the way...i use 2 samsung 171p's. i A/B tested them against the bigger samsungs (as well as the 191t) and found that the picture quality (viewing angle, brightness, contrast, colors) of the 18" and 19" models isn't very good compared to the 15" and 17" models. that explains why the 18" 181T is hardly more expensive than the 17" 171P. there also is a problem with pixel errors on the bigger screens. while pixel errors pretty much disappeared with newer 15" and 17" tft's, it's still a massive problem with the larger models. i can't stand pixel errors. try before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio rocha Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 it´s that for real, plastic? I work with a 21´´samsumg 1100 for a few years and got last year a very nice 15tft LG.The contrast is great and the pixel recognition even better (the best for cad).i´m now considering buying a 19´´sony tft...so are those pixel erros that real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Griger Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Got a Samsung SyncMaster 170T [17"]. Use it for ArchiCAD and C4D, no probs seeing the wireframes. GeForce4 4600 Ti. Besides, after sitting in front of a TFT compared to a CRT alll day, your eyes will thank you! A noticable difference IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 I'm interested in seeing this new Sony 23"er. Megga expensive, but supposidly second to none. Anyone tryed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanzpont Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 From my experience with SGI 1600sw (U can buy it now for 600dll in EBAY) I will never SWITCH BACK again to any CRT no matter what size.. -=sanzpont=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Quick additional notes... 1. LCD's look best at their specified res, and specified hertz. Moving below this res/hertz results in a blurry image, and greatly reduced image quality. 2. The higher the resolution you work at, the slower the video performance. Put 1 and 2 together, and you'll note that buying an lcd which runs at 1900x1440 will... a. Limit the graphics card choices to run a decent display. b. Eliminate a great deal of video cards on the market, due to limitations of maximum 3D resolution. (Ex. Some cards have a much higher 2D resolution support, then they do a 3D resolution support). Just something to keep in mind before one drools too much on the 22 inch and larger displays. Once you get past 1600x1200...3D performance will start to drop...in some cases substaintally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanzpont Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Yes... but this happens also in BOTH (tft and crt) -=sanzpont=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Sanz, Yes, but at least with CRT's you can reduce the resolution without effecting image quality. With LCD's you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcahunak Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Greg, so now what?... I'm confused... have you switched to the CRT side, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I try to never be on any particular side . I was just pointing out a limitation of the larger LCD's. It would kinda of suck if you bough a 23 inch Sony LCD, and you didn't have any video cards which could power that resolution in 3D. Probably need an X1 or Quadro FX to get decent performance at that ungodly res in 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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