Sawyer Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 1) Client sending back mark-ups as a fax (nice black blob?) EEP!! I have a fax machine but I tell my clients I don't so I don't have to deal with this. I would rather go into their office than have to deal with a fax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunDon Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Like everyone I've got pet peeves about my job, but I think the most annoying is clients who mark up an image for you to revise and afterwards send it back again with something else marked up that apparently was "wrong" in the first round. What if I'm rendering layers? What if I have to re-re-render all my mattes? I waste hours of the work day because the architect didn't sit down and look at the draft for more than a couple minutes. Or they didn't pass it around to everyone in the office and I get three different people's markups over the course of a week. That's when I really start swearing. Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindala Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 meddling with lighting and color nuances I do a lot of renderings for realestate developers. When i'm satisfied with the image i let everyone give their comments (only to rounds). the one thing i hate most is when the architect start meddling with lighting and colornuances.. for instance, there are white walls outside, and you have your sun a little yelow reddish so there is a little hue to give the image just that bit of warmth to make ik look friendly. then they (architects) want it to be white.... really white. it's especially bad if they do this for all your materials. then you end up with dull looking renders. on the other hand i usually work for their clients so i can disagree and constantly calling the clients to pay the bills. I waste hours of the work day because the architect didn't sit down and look at the draft for more than a couple minutes. Shaun, you could try working with correctionrounds. tell them there are only two oppurtunities to make changes, after that the clock starts ticking. That usually gets you good comments. Keep in mind there will always be a small third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Two things 1. Indecisive property developers - potentially could cripple a business. 2. Having to work on projects that are seriously crap and in some cases potentially damaging to the built environment. There is a proposed series of residential blocks here in Glasgow that I will more than likely be working on and they are the biggest load of sh$%e - to the point I am considering refusing the work on the basis that the client has learned nothing from the tower blocks that ruin alot of areas in the city. Anyway, not sure how that would work as a business decision ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbarc Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Don't even get me started on reprographics companies. Basically you're turning over your pride and joy, the image that you have been working on for weeks, to people that in the majority of cases couldn't care less what comes out of their machines, and who don't understand the very basics of digital imaging. The number of times I've been called up after sending over an image, with a request to send it again because its 72 DPI, not 300. 'Yeah but it's 4000 x 3000 pixels' is met with an incomprehending silence. You get more or less the same response when you tell them what colour profile you used. 'colour profile? We just put it through on default settings' When you think that these are just 2 of the hundreds of things you need to know to produce the images in the first place, it beggars belief that printers WHOSE JOB IT IS TO UNDERSTAND IMAGES can't get their head round it. What they DO know however, with a lawyer-like attention to detail, is the minutae of the contract they made you sign, waiving them of any responsibility for the mess they make of the job. This probably wasn't even the first thing they made you sign. Before they even considered your job, you probably had to fill in a form giving them access to your bank accounts so they could get your cash even before they pressed the button on their printer. While the rest of us work on 28 day invoice, printers must have their money straight away. This really wouldn't bother me if only they understood how (disproportionately) important they are in the process of creating great imagery. All the weeks of work beforehand count for nothing if for the lack of a few minutes of diligence, the end result looks RUBBISH. (a few of them are ok though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinice Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The number of times I've been called up after sending over an image, with a request to send it again because its 72 DPI, not 300. 'Yeah but it's 4000 x 3000 pixels' is met with an incomprehending silence. Funny thing. 100% of the printers that I work with fall under this category. Another favourite excuse, "the print out came out bad because your image is in RGB, not CMYK". In the early days, I tried to talk to them about color profile etc but it ws useless. These days, I print a small sample on my $300 printer and challenge them to get at least as nice a print on their 50k machine. A few of them are nice enough to listen and just follow what you tell them to do, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dp Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 printing.............. a long time ago i stopped printing my work goes to a client and they can have the fun !! then again with the new printers coming on stream and dye sub printers now at near inkjet prices i maybe will have to relook at this (getting paid for a paper copy rather than a disc with infinite copies may make sense) i like the comment about faxes i have one repeat client who still sends me marked up prints through a carbon paper fax = black despite each time my telling him he is also the guy who rings me on holiday two days after i tell him i'm on holiday and i have finished work for the year he also tells me the drawings "work this time" - yeah right but to his credit he does not tell me the cheque is in the post because he pays on time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zar Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 what I hate most or who I hate the most in this biz are the people who do not appeciate our works because they believe that the computer made it all. They give less or no credit at all to the person behind the computer. Also, these people think that whenever they want something changed, it could happen in a minute because it is all in the computer. I hate these instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornkn Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think the thing I like the least in this biz is when the client/architect tells me that the 3D model is already made, so the job is just to put things together and render. It never is! No matter if the 3D models was made in Archicad or some other 3D program it always turns out to be a lot of work cleaning up and fixing that 3D model. Typically there's a lot of flipped faces, holes in the walls (especially between windows), missing parts and so on. And when you're supposed to make a rendering of the area with several buildings, trees etc it doesn't do the render times any good that every house and room is fully furnished with hi-poly furniture from libraries, 3k poly faucets and 2k poly keyholes in every single door inside the building. I'm glad that I don't have a fax any more though, but I still get some faxes scanned and resent by email, which does not improve on the quaity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noise Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 We have had so many problems with sketchup models - they need to be rebuilt from scratch if we are to get predictable results. Not having time to explore 3D ideas because I am knackered after the day and weeks work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 then shaft you because your work is cr** (but still use it anyway) How do youo mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelp Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 1. Working from a 1 to 100 felt tip pen sketch with no dimensions and then being told I modeled something wrong; “That reveal should have been 8 inches not 6 inches” 2. Designers, who can barely get their own e-mail, think they know how the 3D software works. It usually comes with the catch line “CAN’T YOU JUST” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 It usually comes with the catch line “CAN’T YOU JUST” Oh man! I get this all the time. I think webster needs to add the term "canyajust" to the dictionary: canyajust v. 1. a. The act of asking for something you know nothing about. b. To reveal ones own ignorance by assuming something is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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