Tim Saunders Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Often times people assume we are restricted to the designers' design, and can't make suggestions to the actual design, just the rendering. The way in which you started this thread sort of left an invitation for improvements on the over all design, not just the rendering. In fact I don't remember you asking for any help with the rendering at all. That is what has made this thread different. Usually people (on this site at least) don't ask for suggestions in the design. Like Ed said, it will be cool to see this thing come to life. I'm especially excited to see what Dennis comes up with as far as materials. If I get a chance, maybe I'll give that a go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Brian, Here's a thought on that roof intersection. I just widened the single sloped portion just a hare and threw on a rain gutter. Not sure if your using a traditional drainage system or not. I also extended the bottom of the single slope to the same level as the gable. The second view shows it up a little closer. The third image shows it in elevation view. You could just slice off hte gable where it over-laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I like that! I feel bad, you're doing more work on this than I am right now. I'm out of town but when I get back (Friday) I'll add some doors, rails, ......................actually, I've got quite a bit of stuff to work on. weird factoid: I'll be on QVC in April if anyone cares. I'm in Philadelphia right now at their training studio to learn how to present myself on-air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 That's awesome. You must have real pretty hands so you can model the jewelry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dennis requested a current model. Here's my latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Brian, Tim, I've done some testing for a cool materialset to build the house and got carried away a bit Here's short anim (Flashvid) hope you like it Houseanim Regards, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Dennis, I really want to see your work but I cant' make your video work. I see the controls/track bar at the bottom but there is no picture??? I made some doors and railings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hi Brian, it's a little snippet of anim i did in the weekend. You'll have to get flashplayer 8 Right here to play, since it's a flashvideo (flv). Cool quality these days... I see you did quite some modeling. Why not pass your improved version to me so I can deal with mats and stuff. The modeling is pretty clean man, but the railing on the balcony is quite fat. Maybe only a top-strut and 2 or 3 nice steel wires under it? Regards, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 just an idea but a Technique i sometimes use To show a project To a client is NOT make an animation but make a series of frames at 3/4 FULL SIZE so That you can step around The project and look at it from any angle, 360 degress i dont make as many frames, since it will NOT be playing as an animation but divide a circular-path (or elliptical whatever works The best) into 180 or some number That is not Too big so it wont Take so much Time To render just big enough To include as many angles and views That show The project just an idea i love The animation, Dennis, cool job, you all, celticdog one of These daze i got To start rendering my little design as of last week i am now going To start working on getting my arch. registration and i am still playing around Trying To learn mental ray rendering, so much fun Thanks randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koper Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 really nice house, nice model and nice texturing. How long dit it take to render the animation? also another idea, as the camera gets closer to the house maybe increase the lens size just a bit, wil keep the water in the frame at the botom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisHolland Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 The anim rendered at 16 sec/fr x 800fr. Randy and some fun. Thanks for the compliment, it's only a test. I know about clients and their needs for a sneek preview. Sometimes i use R2T + authoring to show materials for the concept with web3D (wirefusion) as a digital mockup and put it online or such...there are a lot of tools on the market lately so that's nice. Or no preview at all, that's also quite nice Thanks, regards. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Dennis, That's sweet. I couldn't view it at work either, I don't have administrative rights to upgrade flash, but I see it at home. As far as the model, Brian did not model that railing. He had to take it out to save file size when posting the model, I just threw something in there so we would see some sort of railing represented. Brian, The new railing and dood to the balcony look great. I have to say, What are your render settings? I assume your using Vray right? When I rendered the model, the siding looked like crap. Granted I didn't spend much time tinkering with settings, I just rendered it, but I kept getting some wierd shading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecastillor Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Dennis: Wow man...talk about getting carried away! ultra cool man... As an old teacher used to say back in college, to fully apreciate architecture, you have to experience it in the fourth dimension...time....and a way to achieve that in our virtual worlds is through an animation.... Congrats to all...this is one of the best posts Ive seen in a long time...this is truly an international non-profit-teamwork achievement...eat your heart out U.N.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Timothy, I'm just using scanline with: skylight light tracer, 2 bounces one directional light. It takes over an hour to render. Remember, I'm not a professional like you guys so render times don't really matter to me. I just go make a cup of coffee or something and wait. Dennis, WOW, that looks really nice. I've got to learn how to do that! Ecastillor, Koper, Vizwhiz. Thank you for taking the time to post!! Here's the updated model: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Celticdog, Do you have the plans/sections done for the building? Getting the spaces right inside is even more important than external aesthetics. Also, what is the orientation of the building and where is it? Regards, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 Tommy, No, the plans, sections are not done. I am talking to an architect right now to help flesh out my ideas. The external look of the house is actually driven by the interior spaces. I have a good idea of how the house will be laid out. However, I haven't modeled the rooms yet. The front (large angled glass) has a southern exposure. The house is located near Ann Arbor, Michigan on a 13 acre parcel with a 1 acre pond and lake frontage. The first floor of the building is actually an existing structure. It was built to be a shower for a church campground. They built the shower house and apparently abandoned the project. Here's a picture of the existing building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 sounds like you got ahold of some nice real estate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Tommy, No, the plans, sections are not done. I am talking to an architect right now to help flesh out my ideas. The external look of the house is actually driven by the interior spaces. I have a good idea of how the house will be laid out. However, I haven't modeled the rooms yet. The front (large angled glass) has a southern exposure. The house is located near Ann Arbor, Michigan on a 13 acre parcel with a 1 acre pond and lake frontage. The first floor of the building is actually an existing structure. It was built to be a shower for a church campground. They built the shower house and apparently abandoned the project. Here's a picture of the existing building. If I were you, Id get the plans and vertical circulation sorted before you go any further with the design. Otherwise you will become over-attached to exterior elements that are detrimental to how the building works. I dont know anything about the climate of where you are building (or how 'green' you are) but you wouldnt get away with that expanse of south facing glazing without massive heat gains in summer in most countries. I would consider louvred overhangs, brise-soleil, extensive massing or other shading device. Depends on your priorities, both thermal dynamics and ergonomics are higher on my list than looks for a building im going to live in. I would also say that the sloped glass is quite an inefficient use of space, but im used to designing to a budget and getting the most square-foot to the pound. Someone has already mentioned it, but you will get all sorts of wildlife living on the space above the glass box below the roof. Hope these comments provide food for thought..... Good luck with the design, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Tommy I can appreciate your practical advice and philosophy of form following function. However, I approached this from quite the opposite view. Here is the design heirarchy which determined the look of this house: 1. how many/type of rooms do I want 2. What do I want to see and experience in each space. 3. How to make the spaces integrate with eachother. 4. Once integrated, how do I achieve an exterior gestalt which I find esthetically "cool". 5. Structure, utilities, airflow, materials, heatgain and other considerations will be solved as creatively as needed. If I was interested in efficient use of space, air circulation, and heat gain as my first priorities I would end up in a square box with tiny windows. Most homes in my area look alike and it kind of drives me nuts. The reason they are so similar is because the design approach favored practicality and function. This is not to imply that my approach is better but rather its just the way its going to be. I really like your idea about the louvred overhangs. In fact, thats just the sort of creative solution I'm looking forward to as I try to solve some of the other considerations you mentioned. Thanks for taking the time to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Glad to help. What I meant by vertical circulation, was getting the stairs right. This, in my experience, can be an element that steamrollers all over your design if its not thought about in the first instance. And by the way, efficient use of space, air circulation, and heat gain are not things that can be slid down a priority list. Architectural design has no priority list, just a list of considerations that drive a solution. You cant chill out in a cooker, and a south facing glass facade will be exactly that. You cant walk repeatedly up and down 60 degree steps, nor can you breathe stale air. If you are designing a space to live in you dont have to follow design protocols, but you do need practical solutions. Dont just take advice from designers and visualisers, listen to some engineers and environmental designers. Read up on progressive green design. The solutions they come up with are frequently a kick against the stereo-type of 'green=boring'. Wouldnt you get a buzz out of knowing your house had minimal earth impact at the same time as being cool as f**k? That would be a real success. I mean, look at at all the well meaning advice your getting on this forum, why not throw it open to some tree-huggers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'm testing some new materials. I'd like to know what you think. The brick material is the actual texture on the current building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticdog Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 I haven't really shown too much of the other side of the house because I've been trying to figure out the pool/hot tub area. Well, here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 How did you do the roof shingles? Displacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Saunders Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I love that pool area! Looking good. The louvers look good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I've skimmed through this thread, but admittedly havent read every single post so I apologize if this has already been asked, but have you considered cost? Or maybe you are independantly wealthy. If not you may want to get some rough estimates to see if you can even afford something like this. I could see a builder really wanting to jack the price of something like this through the roof just because its not going to have typical details and right angles everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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