mooingmilk Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hi all I have a quick question... I was just wondering What is the average hourly rate for doing a 3d architectual image? I'm in a situation where i've been asked to do something and to give an hourly rate . But I've not had the exposure to what is a reasonable rate to charge? I don't want to quote something that is too high but also at the same time not sell myself short with a price that is too low .,, as this is something i'll be doing in my own time. Does anyone have any advice about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb602 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 This article by David Wright will help you get started figuring out your hourly rate. For average pricing for rendering jobs, the GAG handbook, despite its hideous cover is pretty useful, although it is based on the US market. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTaylor Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 decide how much you want to make, then decide how long you think its gonna take you and then work it out from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AISO GROUP Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Ask 10$ Per Hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 That may be the norm in Beirut but here it's not much above the minimum wage! Hourly rates are not a sensible way to calculate things except as a starting point. I'd do as jat1005 suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 yup. every job is different. i might charge 400 pounds for a working day sometimes. thats about 50 quid an hour. works out to a nett of 7 or 8 hundred quid for a weekend's work, as an example. not massive, but respectable enough. and i always charge per job, not per hour, thats why my rates are variable. (just make sure your original contract/brief covers yourself from working all the hours God sends if you can) you might also want to charge your first job to the client at a slightly cheaper rate just to proove yourself and hopefully get repeat business from him. as i say, those figures quoted are examples and should be taken with a pinch of salt. if you want a rough guide, anywhere between 40-60£ per hour is a normality in most cases. this should be a post for the new business forum if it existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Sorry...how much is a quid in US dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Sorry...how much is a quid in US dollars? £1 = $1.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdarcy Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 A quid also known as £1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 A quid also known as £1 yeah, sorry. forgot to mention that. good job i didnt get too confusing for our non-uk friends with terms like monkey, pony, ton, grand etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 too confusing for our non-uk friends with terms like monkey, pony, ton, grand etc etc. clams, smack, large, bills, denaro, big ones, dead presidents...and the almighty...buck. 1 buck = US$1 Most projects are not charged per hour, assuming you are providing final images. However, if you are doing a sub-task them maybe an hourly is in order. In the US I'm used to seeing rates from $25/hr to as much as $200/hr. It depends on your skill level, desperation of the client and how crazy the schedule is. I also like to charge more for ugly, but that's not a factor you can explain to your client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfienoakes Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 yup. every job is different. i might charge 400 pounds for a working day sometimes. thats about 50 quid an hour. works out to a nett of 7 or 8 hundred quid for a weekend's work, as an example. Hey strat.. Thats a cracking weekends work, one which I could well live with.. Your right about 40-60 though.. seems to be acceptabe to most people.. I find it depends who your dealing with as well.. some people you can charge a little more two, depending on the project value of what they are working on..! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 yes. depends on your client. some jobs are easy to charge well over your normal odds, others you sometimes need to undercut your normal rate just to secure the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I charge by the hour just like a lawyer, psychologist, plumber, electrican etc... I find no reason the conceal my hourly rate, if they don't like my rate, they are free to shop around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 But surely the problem arises that a job can be done in a few hours and your fee would be a pittance? After tax these jobs aren't worth doing. Your client is paying for an end product and that product should have a minimum value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 But surely the problem arises that a job can be done in a few hours and your fee would be a pittance? After tax these jobs aren't worth doing. Then don't take it. If the business model is hourly, then as long as you have enough customers it will all work out in the end. Usually I only charge hourly for changes. So a client will send me instructions for some mods needed on an existing rendering and I put in a few hours, 1/2 day, whatever and charge them $200/hr. I charge a lot for that since I don't like doing it, and to discourage them from asking for changes unless they really need them. The problem with that sort of work is that it can screw up your schedule on other jobs (since they want it right away usually) and that you have to spend time invoicing and such. So the rate is high. If I was billing that all the time I'ld be a lot wealthier. And I have some friends here in NYC who like to work on-site doing drawings and paintings, and they are charging $200 - $250/hr every day of the week when they're busy. And they are wealthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 But surely the problem arises that a job can be done in a few hours and your fee would be a pittance? After tax these jobs aren't worth doing. Your client is paying for an end product and that product should have a minimum value. I've never had a project that took only a couple of hours, they always want to keep changing it, which is fine with me... My time has a minimum value, thats the way I see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 But surely the problem arises that a job can be done in a few hours and your fee would be a pittance? After tax these jobs aren't worth doing. Your client is paying for an end product and that product should have a minimum value. Yeah, I'm with you. I think charging hourly rates for what we do is rediculous. The client is buying a product which has a market value (depending on quality). Whether it takes you 5 hours or 5 days to produce is nobody elses business. If I can produce as good a job as the next guy in half the time, then that's to MY benifit and not the client's (unless I choose to pass on some of the savings to them, which of course you have the flexibility to do so). When I started out, I probably took 2 weeks to do a job to an acceptable standard, now I do the same in 4 days. The product is the same to the client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutaj Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I charge out both, hourly for one client and on a similar client I charge per job quote by sq. footage of the space. First time I had done this in some time. and was amazed to find out that based on the square footage i was making the same rate as per hour. So it is in how you figure out the price for the jobs. That was just the last few jobs I worked on, Yes, I know that a few jobs at the end of last year, I made out like a bandit, but that was because of the timeflow savings on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 ... and on a similar client I charge per job quote by sq. footage of the space. . That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutaj Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 sq. footage is the only way since the design is not even in concept yet, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan J Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 [quote name= by mtutaj ... and on a similar client I charge per job quote by sq. footage of the space. . Dibbers]That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard! Home builders generally ask to price by sqft, this is how they approach the majority of all their estimating. Strange, but true. Generally $.40-.60 ,depending on complexity, works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Home builders generally ask to price by sqft, this is how they approach the majority of all their estimating. Strange, but true. Generally $.40-.60 ,depending on complexity, works. Well, you'll just hope that big space is a glass box compared to the little space which is frilly and fancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutaj Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 my sq. ft. price is usually more then double then what Dan J was stating, but I am working for the designer, so he will give me some insight on what he is thinking, and I base the rate on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan J Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Folks, I'm talking about home builders and simple buildings. Not everyone asks to price their jobs this way, but its just a different tool for negotiation. The first time I had someone ask me this, it caught me off guard. It just pays to be prepared. Exterior -2 sides of the building, 1 or 2 views rendered, no camera matching, changes are extra. If you're proficient enough that works out very well, but still works out to the same hourly that everyone is quoting here. Larger commercial buildings and Interior spaces are priced differently. You never know, you might use this to price a simple exterior of a warehouse project and krrr-ching! Nice pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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