Sawyer Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Well I look every month at the online listings at local job sources and I see a bit of cad work. Almost every firm I talk with says they need drafters. I don't see that much call for product designers. A good friend of mine studied ID in college and she would tell me what they were designing and it sounded great really fun. Now she works sales- never got a job using her degree. I don't quite know why not so this is just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exception Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 It has something to do with profoundness.... Indsutrial design engineers and architects are profoundly lifetime jobs. That mean that you can;t just jump in and out of them, they require a lifetime devotion. You don;t just find a job as industrial design engineer, you have to build it. Same goes for architecture. Now arch. viz. is a little different. It is because we're really in the mix with graphic design, architecture, media design, IT and software stuff and whatnot. Its a hotchpotch, and it is evident from the sheer number of really bad bad bad work out there, hacked together by someone who has no experience and no profound knowledge. Just as in any other profession, if you are original and creative, if you research hard and work hard, you will excel. Spend a whole lot of time and effort on making an irresistable portfolio. Animated. Whatever it takes. Put it on a DVD and hand deliver it to several companies. If they are not swept away, you are not good enough, or you didnt put in the effort. I started out with nothing and before I left to the states I had more work I could handle, for big big money. Why did I quit doing arch viz? Because I was tired of doing someone elses designs. So, I could go the way of KDlab, which is what I might still go and do, or went to get an architecture degree, which is what I did, paying for it with the money I earned from archtiects who were too incapable of making their own drawings (which has baffled me for years, but hey, it was good money ). By the way, I've used Lightwave for creation and rendering of 3d content for 6 years, and i can really recommend it... it won't cost you a limb either. Combined with LWCAD and Fprime its terribly efficient for architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Why did I quit doing arch viz? Because I was tired of doing someone elses designs. That's actually a big problem for me, as well. That's what I don't like about my job, and its not because I want to be a 'real' architect, I don't. But I like drawing and painting it, and so I ended up doing architectural illustration, for which I have little passion. Passion matters, and in making choices about schooling, as much as opportunities are open to you, follow your passion above all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exception Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 True words, Ernest. Trying to be a KDlabs is one possibility, more in line with our work, that is an option. Go and make up your own visualisation animations... but... do them so well, they will explode on the internet. You will be a rumor, a buzz going around. People will be talking about your graphics everywhere. You will suddenly get commisions where you get to design the whole thing, you get to run the show. You get time, decent meetings, proper fees, and a choice of clients! Its not as hard as you think, you just need to get into that mindset. Ernest, I know your work well, it's going to be a breeze for you, if only you could set yourself to do it. However, I have no right of speaking, because I never did it, I chose the other path, less resistance, more work But... as I said. I might still try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAB Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 Industrial design,,hmm I know people now in my country & other middle east countries ,graduated from architectural schools,turned to the industrial design ,seeking much stable work as they say, even me , I was offered a job in Dubai in a packing factory ,but I refused,even I was told that it is in the design dept. "what design?" I said to myself , I cant imagine an architect,an artist,to work in a factory,pardonnez moi:p ,thats my opinion.. maybe a handball player to grow up into an architect(:Dthats me....) Well I maybe wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exception Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Industrial design is not about working in a factory. Architects don't usually work on a construction site either, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAB Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 I totaly understand you Tom, as for the job I was offered ,it was the designing of some sort of dies which are to be placed to inisialize the manifacturing line of packing boxes of a big bunch of stuff(many well known brands of things) the main concern of this was the loss of materials ,easyiest die production & so for.. I mean the best die design is the most economic and then it is chosen to be done in mass production, sure this needs skills & much experience ofcourse , but still no art I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUI Design Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 "what design?" I said to myself , I cant imagine an architect,an artist,to work in a factory SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!! Ifty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaultzero Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Both are the best right....? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D_IC Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 If its women to men ratio you want then i'd go for the Fashion course. 95% women 5% gay men. I have a degree in interior design, which taught me absolutely nothing except the tiny bit of 3D that i clung onto and now have had a career in for 7 years. I have a friend who is the only person on our Interior Design course who actually practices Interior design and he is doing very well. The thing about architecture is. If you're building colapses and you kill someone then you could go to prison. And the course is too long. In the Uk its the same length course as a Doctor in Medicine. I know which one i'd rather be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exception Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Well that kinda depends doesn't it? First off, if you kill someone when you're a doctor you can get sued too. That's why both architects and doctors have insurance. So that's really not a point of significance. Second, if you'd rather have long hours and then have to tell the 5 year old kid that her mommy died after spending 12 ours in a room cutting up her internal organs, or, if you're a GP, listening to people whining about their toe fungus day in day out, than spending the same 12 hard working hours on a drawing only to hear that your building isn't being built, I know what i'd rather be. You can't compare things like that, can you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D_IC Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I'll get my coat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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