fernando-1 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 any suggestions for graphic cards in the $500 to $1200 range for 3dmax/vray use, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiajoon Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 $500 to $1200 is a big range, and you can probably get a decent card even with $500. First of all is your computer using AGP ot PCI-ex slots? You can take a look at the Nvidia Quadro range, and the mid range FX1400 is pretty decent and bang for buck. You can even get one at $250 off eBay. Graphic cards do not help any renderers or Vray to render any faster, its just for viewport prductivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 $500 to $1200 is a big range, and you can probably get a decent card even with $500. First of all is your computer using AGP ot PCI-ex slots? You can take a look at the Nvidia Quadro range, and the mid range FX1400 is pretty decent and bang for buck. You can even get one at $250 off eBay. Graphic cards do not help any renderers or Vray to render any faster, its just for viewport prductivity. Kiajoon has a good perspective... you may not need a super fast card . . . First, try to analyze how you work. You may be able to get by with a lower end card and be able to save some money... maybe not. Are your files well-organized and controlled via layers and shortcuts to maximize the hardware you have. If you have a sloppy file with stuff just littered everywhere the fastest card in the world won't do you a lot of good. If you keep things nice and tidy and files still grow so big it takes minutes for viewport regen, then maybe it is time to snag a high end card. In my opinion, if you don't need to put anything else into your system (ram, hd's, etc),... you stated you have up to $1200 to spend on a card... spend it, get a quadro fx 4500 and enjoy the fastest viewports in town : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando-1 Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 In terms of color, light and quality renderings does it make any difference as far as Vray is concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando-1 Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 I have an ATI Fire GL and an NVIDIA Ge Force in two of my computers at work, ATI renders interiors very well (Web photometric lighting) whereas NVidia renders exteriors very nice (Daylight views) . Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Does that make sense? Not really, unless you are speaking of GPU rendering and not CPU, which I doubt. Typical rendering through the CPU is not aided in anyway by the video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 graphic cards have nothing to do with rendering in vray at all. They just put your computers information on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiajoon Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I have an ATI Fire GL and an NVIDIA Ge Force in two of my computers at work, ATI renders interiors very well (Web photometric lighting) whereas NVidia renders exteriors very nice (Daylight views) . Does that make sense? Maybe he is talking about the quality of the viewports and how the hardware shades the scene, but prints will eventually rely on your colour calibaration and printer. But then it can be also associated with the screen and driver you use. For me ATI cards have a better screen quality and I find the colurs more accurate to work with, but Nvidia has much better drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiajoon Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I have an ATI Fire GL and an NVIDIA Ge Force in two of my computers at work, ATI renders interiors very well (Web photometric lighting) whereas NVidia renders exteriors very nice (Daylight views) . Does that make sense? Maybe he is talking about the quality of the viewports and how the hardware shades the scene, but prints will eventually rely on your colour calibaration and printer. But then it can be also associated with the screen and driver you use. For me ATI cards have a better screen quality and I find the colurs more accurate to work with, but Nvidia has much better drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen072080 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Not really, unless you are speaking of GPU rendering and not CPU, which I doubt. Typical rendering through the CPU is not aided in anyway by the video card. Hey Brian, Does GPU help the CPU in the actual rendering of the scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 No, it doesn't. GPU rendering is what you see in your viewports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiajoon Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Hey Brian, Does GPU help the CPU in the actual rendering of the scene? Yes and no. It takes over the rendering of the viewport display on the screen but does not help the CPU to render the output pixels faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazdaz Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 My short answer is this: 1) Get a 7800GS Nvidia card for $300 and pocket the extra money you were gonna spend on a much more expensive (but not really faster) Quadro card. 2) You graphics card does NOTHING to speed up or affect your final rendering. Viewport image and final rendered image are essentially not related at all... UNFORTUNATELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiajoon Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 My short answer is this: 1) Get a 7800GS Nvidia card for $300 and pocket the extra money you were gonna spend on a much more expensive (but not really faster) Quadro card. That is something I totally disagree when it comes to 3Dsmax. AFAIK only Maya & CInema4D it is ample to use gaming cards. What do you based it on? What software? what kind of scene? Any benchmarks? Read this and you will understand more. http://www.behardware.com/articles/560-1/test-7-pci-express-3d-pro-graphic-cards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiajoon Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 And in here a FX540 overpowers a 7800GTX in SLI in virtually everything, and one by the double. Eventually you have to see which application you use and check up on the application bench. If you use 3dmark then you do not know what you are doing. http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3321&page=3 I hope I cleared up something as simple as why DCC cards are on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm07 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I was planning on buying a GT7800, but based on those stats I think I will get a Quadro FX 1400 instead. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazdaz Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 And in here a FX540 overpowers a 7800GTX in SLI in virtually everything, and one by the double. Eventually you have to see which application you use and check up on the application bench. If you use 3dmark then you do not know what you are doing. http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3321&page=3 I hope I cleared up something as simple as why DCC cards are on the market. How about taking a look at the benchmarks again. http://spec.unipv.it/gpc/opc.static/3dsmax03.html SpecviewPerf8.1 used essentially 3DS MAX 3.1 as it's basis for analysing how fast these cards are. MAX back in version 3 had absolutely HORRIBLE viewport speed (not that it is that great today, but that is besides the point). Baack then, a pro card did help tremendously. Running MAXtreme on my QUADRO card helped a lot. However that was about 5 years ago and MAX's viewport speed has improved dramatically since then, but the benefits of running "pro" drivers has diminished dramaticaly also. The speed increase I get now with my pro card is negligable when running MAXtreme. "Pro" cards are a waste of money... and you are also forgeting the fact that consumer cards can be unlocked to allow them to run "pro" drivers at nearly full speed, for a fraction of the cost. I used to be a proponent of "pro" cards, but I have woken up to the fact that they are overpriced with little performance payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMs Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 should i buy? PNY PCIE QUADRO FX1300 128M DUAL DVI or BFG PCIE GF7 7950GT OC 512M BOX 7950GT??? i have no clue what to bouy for vray renderings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Video cards have nothing at all to do with Vray rendering performance. As far as actual video card performance... probably not very much difference between these, they're both the previous generation of their lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMs Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Video cards have nothing at all to do with Vray rendering performance. As far as actual video card performance... probably not very much difference between these, they're both the previous generation of their lines. thanx for ur answer... but i got another one.. well actually is a problem.... i have 2.75G RAM my video card is Geforce 6600 GT OC 128RAM pentium 4 3.19 GHz and sometimes when i do some renders... i get a vray error saying... not enough memory... so my question is... wtf is wrong?? lol maybe i need a better video card like 256/512RAM instead of 128 RAM?? will this help?? or maybe u can tell me whats wrong with my pc... i think i got a good pc for rendering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 No, the video card has nothing to do with rendering. The problem has to do with the amount of RAM, or the amount of RAM being accessed by Max, or the scene being rendered. 2.75GB? That's a very strange amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMs Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 No, the video card has nothing to do with rendering. The problem has to do with the amount of RAM, or the amount of RAM being accessed by Max, or the scene being rendered. 2.75GB? That's a very strange amount. no.. thats my total ram.. i have 2.75 ram in my pc... and yes the problem is the amount of ram being accessed by Max (or the scene) but.. it doesnt even use the half of my 2.75... then it crashes... any ideas?? maybe theres an option on max that says "use all ram as possible". its weird cuz i have a lot of ram on my pc.. but it will still crash when i have a scene with a lot of stuff to render Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Sounds like what you have is a problem with using Vray. Rephrase your question and ask it in the Vray forum, here or at Chaosgroup, but first do some searching for similar problems (search for the error message). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnatua Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 go to the link below: http://www.generation-nt.com/commenter/cartes-graphiques-amd-ati-radeon-hd-2900xt-nvidia-geforce-8800-gts-benchmarks-actualite-24158.html I'll hope you get what you search for friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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