ShaunDon Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hey folks! We've got Marlin Studios collection of people in motion, but they've been used time and again and I really need to find some new content for our animations going forward. We're using 3D animated characters for medium and long distances, but for close-up shots, nothing beats composited video content. http://www.marlinstudios.com/samples/samppeop.htm Can anyone suggest other companies that offer similar content packages? Thanks all! Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edub Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I'd also like to know of other sources for animated video clips. Seems like a potential lucrative business niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunDon Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Seems like a potential lucrative business niche. Hmmm, that gives me an idea... now I just need a treadmill, a chromakey screen, and some studio lighting! I could have a new package of all my friends done over the weekend! ;-) Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edub Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hmmm, that gives me an idea... now I just need a treadmill, a chromakey screen, and some studio lighting! I could have a new package of all my friends done over the weekend! ;-) Shaun this is exactly what I've thought numerous times in the past. I could do all the peeps in my office - no need to pay for models Of course, the editing to the footage would be substantial - may need to get an intern to do the dity work. Seriously, what kind of camera would be needed to produce something like this - just a standard DV camera? A treadmill could be rented... and somekind of bluescreen for rotoscoping (is that the correct term?)... Studio lighting, what else?? I'd be interested in knowing a production method for these kinds of movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunDon Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 It's been discussed here before I think, but absolutely it's doable. I've got a 5-year-old Canon GL-1, which should be more than enough to do it. It's really just a matter of wanting to do something else with my weekends. *grin* Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 At $300 a pop from Marlin, it might be worth the money to make and sell your own. You'd just have to charge $275. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarp8 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hi Guys, Many years ago, I created the peopleNmotion libraries for Marlin Studios. Since then, I have already done another shoot (and with a professional HD camera.... much, much better resolution). The thing is, I haven't had the time to work on it. I currently run Got3d and have multiple projects / products up in the air. My question for you guys is, does it matter if the people are loop-able? Looping the people takes a lot of time to find the right morph. If the loop isn't that important to you all... then I could have a new library out shortly... what do you guys think? Best, Dave http://www.got3d.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarp8 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Maybe I could do a quick low res test (non-looping) and share it with all of you. I'll keep you informed. -Dave http://www.got3d.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I would think that as long as the clip is long enough, it wouldn't necessarily need to loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarp8 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 900 frames ok? -dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edub Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Maybe I could do a quick low res test (non-looping) and share it with all of you. I'll keep you informed. -Dave http://www.got3d.com Hey Dave- interesting that you worked on the PeopleNMotion (got some of those myself). I guess most of the time looping isn't really necessary. I think if you have 900 frames then you definitely don't need looping in most cases, as few shots of the person would be more than 30 sec (at 30 fps)... most shots will be far less than that. Looping is good if you have a walking person, and the cycle is short (keeps filesize down ttoo, right?), but for standing people talking, it probably isn't essential. Please upload a test so we can check it out Do you do this kind of work much anymore? sounds like you have other things on your plate. Would you care to elaborate on the process used in creating this kind of stuff? What kind of software did you use? Most importantly (for me, at least) did you put the people on a treadmill, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 900 Frames is plenty, if its a camera fly through I pretty much pass by the people in 300 ish frames, for long camera pans 900 is still plemty enough for standing or walking content. I use People n Motion but avoid them for close up use due to the general quality and 'look' of the people (ie pants too high). Id love to have another viable option for animated people, if you do get a chance a sample shot would be good to see what you are up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 speaking for myself, I think that 900 frames would be plenty long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarp8 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I'm processing some images now... I'm going to have to let it run over night. I will post in the morning my results. *edub* - this is what I do... for the most part. I'm trying to do the Got3d thing full time, but I still take on a rendering project or two. -Dave http://www.got3d.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visions Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hi Dave, leave the rendering to us and concentrate on GOT3d....you have some excellent stuff and it would be nice if the content was even more! Vivek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarp8 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Just wanted to give a quick update. I did some post work on a woman last night, but I wasn't happy with her motion... I'm doing a guy now that has some good movement. It's been processing for the past few hours and should be done within the next couple hours. I have meetings until 3pm today (EST)... I'll post my results as soon as I can. -Dave http://www.got3d.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunDon Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 I concur, and I'd actually prefer longer clips that were more diverse -- the looping ends up looking rather stale if there's no secondary motion, i.e. the person is looking around a bit, since those kinds of actions give away that it is a looped sequence. 900 frames would be fine for me, we rarely have single shots that are longer than 30 seconds anyway. Thanks Dave, let us know when the new package is available and we'll be the first in line! Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarp8 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Ok guys, finally done with one of them. Here is a link to the render test: http://www.got3d.com/downloads/cga/ani-test.mov (divx) and here is the link to the textures: http://www.got3d.com/downloads/cga/got3d-ani-test.zip This will only be available until 5pm EST tomorrow. Let me know what you think... either here or admin@got3d.com -Dave http://www.got3d.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunGlare Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 looks very nice. good point with feet aligned to each other and perpendicurally to camera dir. i think there is a 'space' to make this figure looping. if u agree i can try to do that, and we'll compare results. and also there is a small post greenbox ring at the back of this man, but i think that final version will be free of those. what if you put a big mirror in a fronf of the guy, mark his starting body shape, form his point of view, and tell him to finish routine i the same gesture. hmm? it'll make i t easier on your end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edub Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 looks very nice! You said this footage is from a previous shoot, correct? I guess commenting on the gestures is a bit moot then, right? I'm not sure about the shadow though - seems a bit long, and it should be blurred... I guess this is a post effect though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopwith Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hello guys! Any chance to get this thread up and running again? Im desperatly looking for an alternative to buying PeopleNMotion for 300 bucks, when all I need is two loops. (Man and Child - seperatly) Anyone know anything about alternatives to PeopleNMotion? Willing to sell some homebrewed stuff etc? All help is greatly appreciated! -Sopwith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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