Carlocki Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Does exist any reference about this topic on internet? many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMc Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Oh my god, I wish it did! It would have saved me a lot of money! Unfortunately, no, vray doesn't plug in to lightwave. I've seen some talk of a stand-alone vray app, but as of yet it hasn't appeared. At the moment vray is available for 3dsMax and Vis. I believe that there are plugins being developed for Cinema4d and Rhino (possibly XSI). So if you want to use vray right now, you've got to buy Max (in my opinion). You can download an evaluation copy of both Max and Vray to try. Give it a go. Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlocki Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Im serously thinkin of leaving lightwave fo 3dmax and vray the problem is i like too much lightwave's modeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMc Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Carlocki, don't worry, you don't have to completely leave LW. It's perfectly acceptable to use many different software packages (so long as you can afford it). Here's the list of what programs I use and why... Rhino3d - very good for accurate modelling (especially for manufacture) Modo - very good for organic modelling (better than LW imo) Lightwave/Fprime - excellent for all my exterior rendering work Max/Vray - the best thing for interior renders (at the mo) I swap between programs depending on what I need to do. So don't bin LW just yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbus Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Right now there is no way of rendering LW Scenes in VRay other than exporting to max and this obviously means buying max. There is a VRay standalone Version comming some time in the future. With the standalone version it would be possible for some skilled programmer to write a data exchange plugin. This is done for C4D e.g. I really hope that someone can develope this. Florian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warprat Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 yeah that would be great cos' all the Max guys here are really blowin us LW'ers off it getting very annoying. Yeah I can use max but it's so blistering hard the modelling. Then maxwell came well it's just sad. for now I am really happy with my fprime. So till any big change comes along thats what its going to be I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMc Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 When vray stand-alone comes out, I guess you could use a program like polytrans to convert your LW scenes to whatever file formats vray will read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbus Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 When vray stand-alone comes out, I guess you could use a program like polytrans to convert your LW scenes to whatever file formats vray will read. That will probably work for the geometry and imagemaps but the trick would be to translate the other LW textureinfos to vray. But maybe Vray standalone will have some good mapping features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlocki Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think Lightwave has to do something from the commercial point of view that let it surplus 3dmax features Now 3dsmax is ruling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 It's not a matter of who's ruling. Use what works for you. LW used to be way ahead of the competition with Radiosity, HDR and more. Inevitably, everybody else caught up and Newtek neglected development for a long time but with release 9 on the horizon, things should really improve. It's still a great program and can hold its own as one of the best all round 3d apps. BUT, if you don't like it, don't use it. It really is that simple. Vray produces great images but then so does Blender in the right hands. Pick your tool and learn how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlocki Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 First of all i want to say something: I deeply love lightwave raytrace Anyway we have to admit a thing Autodesk bought 3dmax and for this reason, from a commercial poin of view, is rulling the 3d architectural viz market as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I can admit that but it has no bearing on anything I do. So I don't really see your point. One of the major architectural practices I deal with uses Microstation. It doesn't seem to worry them too much that 95% of their peers use Autodesk products. In fact, they really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azman_821009 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I am Lightwave user. I really2 like create modeling from LightWave but i really f**kg hate rendering in LightWave. Sometimes i render in 3d's Max (Vray) for my work and final exam. I'm thinking soon i will leave LightWave and start for new 3d program which have a good quality and fast rendering. If Lightwave still dont want to make improvement for render engine as like Vray, Renderman and etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbus Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Did you have a look at KRay (http://www.kraytracing.com). It might be what you are looking for. Florian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I am Lightwave user. I really2 like create modeling from LightWave but i really f**kg hate rendering in LightWave. Sometimes i render in 3d's Max (Vray) for my work and final exam. I'm thinking soon i will leave LightWave and start for new 3d program which have a good quality and fast rendering. If Lightwave still dont want to make improvement for render engine as like Vray, Renderman and etc. Thanks for the info. Maybe you should try FPrime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I was used Lightwave for visualizations ten years. Now I use modo because I don't like oldest Lightwave renderer. I set different scenes, I try different tips and I don't see good renders of my work. People who create modo are from old team of NewTek. When I set keyboards shortcuts in modo I fell like in LW Rendering engine in modo is really, really fast and very good. Sorry for my english. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azman_821009 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 It's easy to use FPRIME? Compare with other render engine? Can do animation also? Which 1 better, Kray @ Fprime? Quality, faster rendering and easy to use compare Vray? Thanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 FPrime is much easier to use (almost definitely the easiest render engine to set up-once you turn on radiosity, you only have 3 variables) but Kray is better for quality over speed. Having both is the ideal situation really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azman_821009 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Haloo IC!! I want ask some question.. Before i want to decide to buy for render plug-in, which 1 better.. Easy, simply, fast for rendering & the best quality.. Kray @ FPrime? I mean for beginning.. Specialy rendering for Architecture (Exterior & Interior).. (Sory for my english) Thanx.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warprat Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I would vote Fprime. Its easy to use and considerably fast.U get really fast radiosity. Kray is good to but just a bit more to learn and understand before u can use it. Or Modo, That's fun. seamlessly open your lightwave filein modo. but then u have to setup again all your mappin textures lighting etc. hope that was helpfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbus Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I would also say that fprime is much easier to use while Kray is more powerfull. It can also be hard to cleanup noise in an fprime animation. Florian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Today, FPrime. In 6 months or less (depending on Worley Labs) KRAY. KRay has made incredible strides in speed and quality. Fast, soon will use nodal surfacing, the new version even features built-in instancing. After years of no significant updates, FPrime is showing it's age. Also, use the 9.2 LW upgrade when released - it has significant improvements to it's render engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limbus Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Today, FPrime. In 6 months or less (depending on Worley Labs) KRAY. KRay has made incredible strides in speed and quality. Fast, soon will use nodal surfacing, the new version even features built-in instancing. After years of no significant updates, FPrime is showing it's age. There is a fPrime Update coming as soon as LW 9.2 is final. Florian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlov Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Kray is imho a must for Professional viz work. There's no way you can match Kray's quality and speed in LW or Fprime by now (9.2 has nice GI and super-efficent cache for animation, but for stills Kray is still several times faster). Again, Kray offers the only full-GI instancing system on LW (HD instances cannot cast GI shadows and GI on instances is not cacheable in 9.2), it's already compatible with new cameras and 1.7 will support volumetrics. bye Paolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikmayan Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 It's not a matter of who's ruling. Use what works for you. LW used to be way ahead of the competition with Radiosity, HDR and more. Inevitably, everybody else caught up and Newtek neglected development for a long time but with release 9 on the horizon, things should really improve. It's still a great program and can hold its own as one of the best all round 3d apps. BUT, if you don't like it, don't use it. It really is that simple. Vray produces great images but then so does Blender in the right hands. Pick your tool and learn how to use it. I agree "NewTek neglected development"...it's all depends on the available options for the user.You use what you have like I do.I know very well what "VRay" can do but you can get close enough(depending on what is it you want) as far as rendering any scene. I use LW for when needed and that's that.Since LW don't have "VRay package",I don't think about it.However,when I am using Max,I go full force.That's just the way it is at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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