allanx Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi I've model a structure for 10 hours and here it is, comments please. Allan Casas http://allancasas.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmandu Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi Allanx, Question: Is that 10 hours for strictly modeling time? I'm not all that familiar with Sketch Up, but from what I've heard, people like it primarily because it's a quick conceptual modeling tool. I like the model you have created, but it seems like one should have been able to model that faster. We have put Sketch Up on our radar as a potential addition to our suite of modeling software, so I'm more curious than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanx Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Yes the 10 hours is only for modelling because its not a concept model its for rendering model. All elements and objects in the model have thickness and it has an interior. You will understand all of this when you get to use Sketchup, if I will do a sketch model of this house it will only take me 30 mins. but the model is very detailed inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Eloy Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I agree with Jon, Allan. 10 hours is a lot when dealing with Sketchup. I've been using it (for fun) for a few weeks now and can say that even though your model is full (interior+exterior), many of its elements are repeated. Anyway, the rendering looks good. It's nice to see how natural the model looks when GI is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jophus14 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 10 hours isn't that long of a time when modelling in SU depending on the model and the detail of it. It seems as though most of your model are extruded boxes, so I would think that maybe 10 hours is a bit much. I can't tell from the model on how much the interior is modelled, but it looks great. What rendering engine did you use to render it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanx Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Yeah, maybe I'm too slow. Anyway I use Maxwell for rendering. Thanks for your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron-cds Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I've found that sketchup isn't really much faster than other methods when creating the FIRST model. However, when making revisions (seems like there always is), sketchup is very fast. The push-pull, follow me and intersect with model tools help make sketchup so fast for adjustments. Before sketchup, I modelled in autocad. I started modelling with solids and eventually moved to 3d face modelling so I could make adjustments easier. Sketchup is basically a very advanced method of 3d face modelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa2 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Before sketchup, I modelled in autocad. I started modelling with solids and eventually moved to 3d face modelling so I could make adjustments easier. Sketchup is basically a very advanced method of 3d face modelling. Aaron, you should check out AutoCAD 2007, it's got a lot of the cool stuff that sketchup has. Major upgrade in the 3D tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jophus14 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I started using SU the first day on the job. I had to learn it rather quickly in order to keep up with the architects demands. It is a great software program for doing any type of massing or to see how a scene may look prior to taking it into Max or Viz for the final rendering. There are some things that I hate about it, but the more you use it, the better and faster you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron-cds Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Aaron, you should check out AutoCAD 2007, it's got a lot of the cool stuff that sketchup has. Major upgrade in the 3D tools. I'm already set up. I've got sketchup for $500 and autocad lt for $800. That's far less than autocad 2007 and it allows me to do virtually the same thing. 95% of my work is rendering and 5% is architecture. I can't justify spending $4000 for constructing models and doing periodic construction drawings. $1300 is much better and alllows me to do the same thing. I just can't do it all in one program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa2 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 1. Sketchup $500 / Autocad LT 2006 $800 = $1300, much less than Autocad 2007 2. Autodesk is really dragging their feet waiting this long to improve modelling. Too little, too late. My work is 95% renderings / 5% architecture. I can't justify the cost of autocad vs. autocad lt. I would rather spend the money upgrading from viz 2006 to max 8. I hear ya on the $, my company has 100's of AutoCAD licenses...I guess I take it for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmandu Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Aaron, you should check out AutoCAD 2007, it's got a lot of the cool stuff that sketchup has. Major upgrade in the 3D tools. We're currently do most of our modeling in ADT 2005. We have ADT 2007 (subscription program), but have not loaded it as of yet. You make me wonder if we should move on that sooner rather than later. Is the upgrade in 3D tools that significant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa2 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 We're currently do most of our modeling in ADT 2005. We have ADT 2007 (subscription program), but have not loaded it as of yet. You make me wonder if we should move on that sooner rather than later. Is the upgrade in 3D tools that significant? Yeah, 2007 has seen it's first major upgrade in the 3D tools since version 14 or 15. You can push and pull on solids, you can modify solids by grabing the grip points and moving them...all kinds of cool stuff. Also you can now do an orbit by holding down the shift key and pressing the middle mouse button (like max with Alt+middle mouse button). You can now model in perspective mode and you can loft two different shapes together. I could go on and on about the new features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmandu Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Well, that does sound fairly significant. It looks like we'll have to check that out. Thanks for your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapmandu Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Well, that does sound fairly significant. It looks like we'll have to check that out. Thanks for your reply. I think I read / heard somewhere that you can't link in ADT 2007 files into Max 8 - can anyone confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa2 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Regular AutoCAD 2007 files have to be saved back to the 2004 format in order to link them into max 8, so I'm guessing that you'd have to do the same thing in ADT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrija Posaric Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hy folks, gfa2, there is a great .3ds import/export option in autocad 2007, which makes it completly compatible with 3ds max (combine that with vray renderer and you are on the top of the world;-) I use sketchup for most of my work, because it is the fastest I have sen yet, and with some ruby script plugins you get a huge variety of options, that are most common in other 3d programs. The allanx times are reasonable, not the fastest ones but definitely not the slow ones either. There is guality .3ds exporter built in Su5 so you can combine it with 3ds max and also with autocad 2007. The autocad 2007 has some interesting features in 3d environment, and it reminds me of a more complicated version of SU, but unfortunately it is far more hardware consuming than sketchup, or max which narows its useability for managing huge models, and there is no any fun like in Sketchup;-) cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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