Cesar R Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Some do, some don't. i just got an NFR and its very slow.... I wonder how long the images on their site took Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 i just got an NFR Can you explain how that came to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar R Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Can you explain how that came to be? Sure, I work for an autodesk reseller. I am an AE. Along that we are resellers for Vray, FinalRender and many other 3rd party apps. and I applied to possibly be a Maxwell reseller also. - One of the advantages of working at my office I get to play with the latest apps. On a side note, after playing with it and from what I saw, it's was very slow and seems complicated. not to mention that aside form the great renders I have seen after reading some threads filled with negatives I don't think its a smart move for our company. I do however would like to get a demo of modo and test it out just like I have gotten a demo of CD4. I basically asked the NL for a demo version and they sent me an NFR lic. after comfirming the integrity of the company i work for ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 ...not to mention that aside form the great renders I have seen after reading some threads filled with negatives I don't think its a smart move for our company... If you do ever consider selling Maxwell, it might be wise to contact other resellers and ask about their experiences with the software and it's developer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 If you do ever consider selling Maxwell, it might be wise to contact other resellers and ask about their experiences with the software and it's developer. I guess we could ask Jeff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar R Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 If you do ever consider selling Maxwell, it might be wise to contact other resellers and ask about their experiences with the software and it's developer. That is correct, We will start our homework on the that this comming week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamT Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I'll give you the cheat sheet ... RUN AWAY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar R Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I'll give you the cheat sheet ... RUN AWAY!! its that bad uh? haha - why do you feel that way may I ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gattomanzo Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 its that bad uh? haha - why do you feel that way may I ask? its not that bad,don't listen Adam ... well, just consider some few negative points: if you have much much much much much much much time,you like to be treated like a pig for maxwell moderators,you have a partially working release working worse than beta,sometime you'll be persecuted by people saying that maxwell is good and his faults are because you're the idiotand more... just an advice Cesar, don't be POLEMIC in their forum, even if you can't sell or work with maxwell, or THOU SHALL KNOW THE RAGE OF THEM !!!(distant sound of thunder). eheheheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PopArt Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 you can kep in mind that there are sitautions where resellers have thretened Next Limit with lawsuits, and, in one case a reseller who is a respected cg community member has expressed extremely negative views about the business ethics of this company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 There is also the issue of whether (or not) NextLimit will be able to provide timely bug fixes, patches, service upgrades, tech support to your customers. They do not have a good record so far. Maybe they can change, but if their track record up until now is any indication, you would be in for a bumpy ride. They also seem to be quite willing to make back-room deals, so you will never know if they are giving much better terms to your competition and screwing you, or the other way around. There is a smell of dis-honesty about them, a stink, really. I've done everything I could short of a lawsuit to sever my business ties to that bunch, they just ignore me and anyone else who wants out. You can leave, but they're keeping your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 ...but on the positive side, ummm, they, ummm... damn, this is harder than I thought... Umm... they are environmentally conscious? Yeah, that's it. They wouldn't even *think* of killing trees just to print a user manual. God bless 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I don't know Adehus, do you know if there using environmentally friendly Green electricity over there at NL, I'll bet they have their own coal burning generator and they are strip mining the coal from the countryside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamT Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I don't know Adehus, do you know if there using environmentally friendly Green electricity over there at NL, I'll bet they have their own coal burning generator and they are strip mining the coal from the countryside. I'd hardly consider them Green, considering that it requires a city block full of computers to render a single print-rez interior. One interior render = one melted glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PopArt Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 One interior render = one melted glacier. LOL:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamT Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 its that bad uh? haha - why do you feel that way may I ask? A number of reasons: 1. NL is ethically challenged: they rarely communicate with their customers, but when they do it's often a lie or half-truth; 2. They have a track record of internal problems, including lawsuits by and against former employees, who have had very ugly things to say about them; 3. They rarely make a deadline, and when they do it's usually at the expense of promised features; 4. Maxwell in its present state is only appropriate for a very small audience, that being persons who do product visualization and exterior archvis stills. It's far to slow to be useable for animation or interiors, and its network rendering is far to primitive to be of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoA4D Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 The bad, at this time, out numbers the good. Even the good has been attached to bad by NL: the beta version was simple and capable of gorgeous renderings yet NL chose to put beta's render engine aside to build a new render engine for the core of V1 and create a complicated material system (to mask failure to deliver promised features and the beta quality?). It has been speculated that beta's engine will make a comeback in V2 (and the beta quality and promised features that we paid for?), for which, most believe there will be an upgrade charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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