olbo Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Well, ... what can I say --> Take a look at the site of the german reseller. Then read this quote: Hello, just a few words to share with you some screenshots of the demo version of maxwell render. I think that we will find these improvements in the next update. A great feature : pack and go It was on the wish list. Victor said it will be developped. I don't test it yet, it will allow us to regroup in one folder all the necessary files to do a render. Emixer : sources have got their real names A new more powerful wizard helping us to define very quickly a material. And the most wanted improvements : Checkbox for multilight I want to thank all the development team to make available both mac and windows demo version. Roch http://www.maxwellrender.fr And if you like, hit the thread about this at the maxwellforum. So, ... the legend of NL continous ... *ROFL* nb: There are some other resellers like .fr .ch that offer the demo too. hint: You can use your license.dat to turn the demo into a retail version. ;o) take care Oleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhanu Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I heard some where that resellers were given demo version more precisely called NFR (not for resale) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave davidson Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 now all i need is my secret plusone and an update to the V1 ive paid for but i guess the demo is more important and will need updating first :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PopArt Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I dont find it surprising,NL and the resellers are doing this for money, not fot fun, and i duoubt they are selling too many license with the new maxwell price. Maybe it was something the resellers asked for because people didnt want to buy without having a demo. But i really dont think the demo will help NL to sell v1.0 (or 1.0.1 whatever) - having tried the demo i think its much less likely that people will buy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave davidson Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 i was thinking the same thing would be interesting to get some words from new people that have tried the demo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olbo Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 What's the best thing about it, ... if I would like to test the demo, download it and then would like to ask some questions ... well I can't do it at the Maxwellforum since it is closed to public. So I guess you are right if you think the resellers asked for the demo stuff. Even if they didn't ... they will get bombed with questions. What a pitty ... pff. take care Oleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave davidson Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 i just want to know what that guy whos replies have vanished said in the thread did anyone catch any of his replies before they vanished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoA4D Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 What's the best thing about it, ... if I would like to test the demo, download it and then would like to ask some questions ... well I can't do it at the Maxwellforum since it is closed to public... Typical NL. Secretly putting out a demo with newer features than what the paying customer has? Typical NL. Driving resellers nuts and then having to placate them using a secret demo. Typical NL. No explanation or update from NL for the current customers. Typical NL. Amazing to me are the folks posting mild-mannered rebukes in the MWR forum to the complainers about NL's behavior. Wake up people: you thought you were buying a renderer "...that simulates the light propagation without tricks."(25/2/05 CGArchitect.com interview with Victor Gonzalez and Ignacio Vargas.) Actually, it was a trick zebra, it is a trick zebra and it will continue to be a trick z... Edit: If I saw a hungry baby, and a hungry kitten, I'd feed the kitten first. _Mike Typical NL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Even from a reseller's point of view this seems stupid- So your customer downloaded the demo, and wants to buy the full version. He gets the license and the download link and downloads it. Then he has a piece of software that has less functionality than the demo! Doesn't seem even vaguely smart to me. Unless... there's a mirror with the new version... only for people stupid enough to pay $1000 for Maxwell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Isn't Jeff a reseller, he should know about this. This is just the latest example for all of those who are watching that NL isn't a company to be trusted. They said many times that there would never be a demo version that was one of the biggest problems I had with Maxwell before I purchased it. For them to do this behind our backs just shows how irrelevant they consider there current customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 So your customer downloaded the demo, and wants to buy the full version. He gets the license and the download link and downloads it. Then he has a piece of software that has less functionality than the demo! Very astute observation! I guess that's why you activate the demo with a licence file. What this also means is that providing a demo was easy all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I had a demo. They gave me a demo last July. I tried it and passed. Infact I was surpised that anyone would have bought it. I guess I am one of a few who got a demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Sawyer are you serious! That's just outrageous that they would selectively give out demos to people when they were telling us there was no Demo and there woulden't be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I guess that's why you activate the demo with a licence file. Really? That's ubermessedup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Sawyer are you serious! That's just outrageous that they would selectively give out demos to people when they were telling us there was no Demo and there woulden't be one. I am a bit uncomfortable with this but this company is so screwy. In July 05 Maya sent me an e-mail saying they had seen my work and would let me try the product and if I wanted to buy it they would give me a 75% discount. (I kept the e-mails.) I feel weird being singled out for this when at this point they were obviously desperate to have contacted me LOL. I think its probably pretty common practice and at the time I thought they must have been giving it to everyone. And believe me it was wise of them that they didn't offer the demo. I rendered a scene in it that I had just finished a v-ray version the original took 1 hour I left M~W version overnight and it was still grainy. At the time the material browser didn't work. Anyway it didn't fly with me. I tried it didn't like it. Told Maya I thought it was not ready for prime time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I'll bet that really made them mad, someone saying no to their perfect baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I never heard from them again. I recenlty aske Maya if the discount was still good. No word. Somehow I don't think I ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Originally Posted by Ernest Burden I guess that's why you activate the demo with a licence file. Really? That's ubermessedup. I took that from the first post: hint: You can use your license.dat to turn the demo into a retail version. ;o) And NextLimit has been cutting special deals all along. The official policies (or the assumption that any exist) were only for the fools who bought in without having to be courted--like me. People who saw their stuff here and said "I want it now!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PopArt Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 wow:eek: , watching NL's business practices is alot like watching WWF wrestling:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 wow:eek: , watching NL's business practices is alot like watching WWF wrestling:rolleyes: Wait a minute WWF rocked! Don't drag the good name of professional wrestling into this (Funny enough I did an illustration for The Ultimate Warriors house many years ago. Remember him? I think he took Hogans belt away for a while. He has now changed his name to Warrior and I think he just gives motivational speeches now. I heard he was really cool.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PopArt Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 *LOL* you are right that was uncalled for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I dont find it surprising,NL and the resellers are doing this for money, not fot fun, and i duoubt they are selling too many license with the new maxwell price. Maybe it was something the resellers asked for because people didnt want to buy without having a demo. But i really dont think the demo will help NL to sell v1.0 (or 1.0.1 whatever) - having tried the demo i think its much less likely that people will buy it... I downloaded the demo for OSX and activated with my license.dat. All I have to say is that anyone that migh be considering buying a full retail price license of Maxwell after testing the demo has to be out of his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 CHE give us some details, what's the demo like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Same old stuff, nothing special really. Only that this one is very unstable. I cannot even orbit the 3D viewport in Studio without draging and crashes. This was in a MacBook Pro 2.16 GHz Intel Core Duo 2GB Ram with a ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB and without any geometry loaded. I will give the Sketch Up plugin a try later today. I'll let you know how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 How stupid, they create a demo to try and interest potential customers in their product and the simplest of functions crashes it. I'd be laughing now if I wern't so sick of their incompatance. Someone said that this demo was more advanced than the full version we've got, is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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