Geoffc Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I ordered my wife a sony Vaio FE690 core duo 2500 (2.0ghz) w/ the Nvidia 7600 Go and manually upgraded it to 2gb of ram. I don't have an authorization yet to try vray on it, so I created this quick scanline teapot scene to test this against my older P4 pc. 200 teapots w/ the built in chrome material applied to all, and an omni above. 800x600 render size (reduced for this post). Here are the results: P4 3.06 ghz, HT, w/2g ram, xp home: 12:32 Core Duo Vaio 2.0 w/ 2g ram, xp pro: 7:41 That's in ~60% of the time! I thought it might be a bit faster, but that's amazingly better from what I expected. This laptop will defintely be my new render horse until I build a new workstation later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dfreelancer Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Nice! Could you PM me the max file so I can compare this core duo with my old Opteron system? michael at 3dfreelancer dot com Kind regards michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffc Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 email sent. I would also like to see how this compares to opterons. the core2duo must really be quick when it comes out in the next couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffc Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 embaressingly simple, but here it is if anyone else wants it too. I can't wait to try the vray test over on the chaos forums, once this laptop gets authorized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 You will find that your Core Duo is about as fast as a dual Xeon 3.4. Erm, your wife's Core Duo... won't she want it back? I've been using one for a while and it's as fast in Vray as you'd expect. The P4 is obsolete now, soon to be replaced by a desktop line of Core Duo-like CPUs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago de Andrade Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I saw a benchmark in anandtech's site, it's pretty impressive indeed. I checked the intel website and couldn't find when it is going to be released for desktops. Does anyone know? And I heard it's not going to cost too much, will not come near the Pentium D extreme editions, is it true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I think the timeline is next month. Prices should be competitive - preliminaries have a 2.4GHz Core2 Duo at a bit over $300, with $500 and $1000 versions (and a couple lower-end versions, but I think the sweet spot on the price curve is the 2.4). The $1000 version will be the fastest thing available, will be something like 2.9GHz. There will also be a Xeon version for dual-dual use but I haven't seen the pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffc Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 There will also be a Xeon version for dual-dual use but I haven't seen the pricing. Isn't that the woodcrest series, ie, the 5100's? I thought it went Merom-laptops, Conroe-desktops, Woodcrest-workstations. You can actually price out Boxx or Dells, etc, with the 5100 series now, but man they get expensive real quick when building a dual-dual system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippu Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Intel will sell the 5160 Woodcrest, a 3GHz, 1333MHz part for $850; the 5150 2.66GHz 1333MHz part for $690; the 5148T for $520 - this is a 2.33GHz part; the 5130 2GHz at $315; the 5120 1.86GHz 1066MHz bus part at $250, and the 5110 1.60GHz 1066MHz CPU at $210. Ultra dense server Woodcrests will eat 40 that was there on some site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlangas Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 email sent. I would also like to see how this compares to opterons. the core2duo must really be quick when it comes out in the next couple months. I got 8:48 with a dual, dual core opterons 270 4gb ram. EDIT: I got 35 seconds when rendered with vray, Just changed to vray renderer with the default settings and used the same standard material but with a vray map in the reflect slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Intel will sell the 5160 Woodcrest, a 3GHz, 1333MHz part for $850 So the 3GHz Xeon will be less than the 3GHz EE? What's so great about the EE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I got 8:48 with a dual, dual core opterons 270 4gb ram. EDIT: I got 35 seconds when rendered with vray, Just changed to vray renderer with the default settings and used the same standard material but with a vray map in the reflect slot. You're kidding right ? The laptop beat the quad workstation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffc Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 You're kidding right ? The laptop beat the quad workstation... something must be off with that, I agree. well, let me put this forward: have you done the "new" cornell box test over at chaos vray forums? I did receive my vray authorization this morning, so I quickly tried it on the Vaio. Unfortunately, it will be slightly different since I'm using 1.46.15, not 1.47.03 of vray. Anyway, laptop finished it in 6:03. Which again beats the hell out of my P4 which did it in ~11 minutes. Perhaps carlangus with the quad core could bench that scene and compare it to the Vaio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 So the 3GHz Xeon will be less than the 3GHz EE? What's so great about the EE? EE as in AMD? From what I've read (conserning socket 940), basically lower power consumption and the resulting lower heat production and the non EE chips. note ~ they are considerably more expensive than non EE's. With socket 940's a 265EE ran as much as a non EE 275... best for industrial/commercial applications where the energy savings from the implimentation of hundreds of the processors in supercomputers offsets their initial high purchase price I haven't heard of EE versions for Socket F yet ... has anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 By EE I meant Intel's Extreme Edition chip. They have a 2.93GHz Extreme Edition Core2 Duo with a preliminary price of $1000 - so I'm wondering why this would cost more than a Xeon at basically the same clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlangas Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 You're kidding right ? The laptop beat the quad workstation... I just took that same scene that was posted earlier and just changed the renderer to vray, and the material as I described in my ealier post. thats it. It did take 35 secs to render> I can post the render with the time stamp....Ill post it in a little bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dfreelancer Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Strange. I got 11:22 on my old dual opteron 242. The cpu utilization was only 60-65 % though! With Vray I got 74,6 seconds - 100 % cpu utilisation. Time to upgrade ... 3dfreelancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonel Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 dunnow if anyone posted but: 4:13 for Conroe E6600 (2.4GHz) 5:17 for opteron 170@2.4GHz the box scene for vray cute opteron won't go further than 2.7GHz for 24/7 use and air cooling with low rpm and the conroe goes sweeeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR ARCH 2B Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 7:36 System: Alienware area 51 7700 3.6 P4 HT w/ 2 GB of RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 They also posted results with a 6800 6800 Coreduo2: 3 min 32.8 Here's some quick comparisons Dual 275 Opteron: 3m 11.3 sec Dual 270 Opteron: 3m 36.8 sec Dual 2.8 Xeon: 6m 29.3 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 They also posted results with a 6800 6800 Coreduo2: 3 min 32.8 Here's some quick comparisons Dual 275 Opteron: 3m 11.3 sec Dual 270 Opteron: 3m 36.8 sec Dual 2.8 Xeon: 6m 29.3 sec So the core2 duo's are as fast as a quad opteron system, (dual-dualcore 275's), that's pretty sweet !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 So the core2 duo's are as fast as a quad opteron system, (dual-dualcore 275's), that's pretty sweet !!! indeed : ) that's why I'm considering building one as a workstation instead of upgrading my current dual skt 939 setup to dualcores. Assuming AMD doesn't drop prices on current 940 2xx procs, for the price of an upgrade to dual-dual cores, I could get a decent Core2 system that's faster than my dual 248's and have better non-smp performance to boot:D I've spec'd a 6400 based system (OC'd of course) with 4gb ram and a 7900gt and dual 74gb OS hd's in Raid O and a big 300gb storage drive and a great PSU for just under $1700... will post those results later as the Guiness hasn't worn off yet:p horray beer . . . sleep . . . horray coffee Greg, I hope you don't mind as I spec'd this system using yours as a model: Intel Core 2 Duo build #1: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Intel BadAxe mobo = $265 4gb Mushkin DDR2 FSP 700w EPS12v PSU 2 - WD 74gb Raptors (raid 0) 1 - Samsung Spinpoint 300gb evga 7900gt KO scythe Ninja CPU hsf _________________________ with solid components ~ comes out to $1879. Add a decent case and you're still comfortably under $2000 Intel Core 2 Duo build #2: Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Intel BadAxe mobo = $265 4gb Mushkin DDR2 FSP 700w EPS12v PSU 3 - WD 74gb Raptors (OS and progs - raid 0+1) 2 - WD 400gb (storage) evga 7900gt KO scythe Ninja CPU hsf Antec P180 case _______________ complete 6700 Core2 system = $2399! minus the WD 74gb raptors = $1889!! (note: all prices but the Intel mobo are newegg'd) ... where are all the 2gb sticks of high performance DDR2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I actually went with the core duo2 setup BECAUSE amd still hasn't dropped the dual opteron prices. I got a screaming deal on a dual opteron tyan motherboard earlier this year, and have been waiting nearly 8 months for AMD to cut the prices on the dual core opts...I finally gave up and went with the duocore2. Right now my E6600 (2.4 ghz) is running at 3.22 (Would be equiv to a E7000) rock solid, and outputing 1005 cinebench scores, so I'm sitting pretty. Waiting for max9 before I can do the new vray benchmark...the scene won't open in 5.1 properly, and I'm not going to buy 8 when 9 is about to be available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 IMO: AMD has definitely held out long enough without cutting Opteron prices... I don't know why, as such price cuts are the only real way for them to leverage (with respect to the market) against Woodcrest:confused: If I dig up some info on the Opteron 2xx price cuts and find such a thing is still a few months off, I may also proceed with a Core2 build : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 OTOH, the Core2 pricing is above the original estimates I saw. They're both too expensive for me to buy until they come down some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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