jimc Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Does anyone want to buy mine and make a saving on the advertised price? I may put it on ebay, if there is any interest here. All the best James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Have we covered this here before? NextLimit has a 'once we cash your check you're in for life' policy. They do not allow any transfers of ownership, and they're famous for ignoring calls for refunds. So even though the software would work on a buyers machine, they would not be seen as the rightful owner by NL which means no support and no upgrade path. Unless NL has a new policy, and how the hell would I know if they did? But I doubt they do. I do not think the current situation allows for an ethically acceptable sale of your MWR licence, even if you list the facts before someone buys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I just spoke to someone from NextLimit and confirmed that you are not allowed to transfer your licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus3D Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 What Jeff said, you're not allowed to resell your license anywhere. It will get you in serious trouble doing so. / Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Is this an industry standard policy or just something NL thought would be a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus3D Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 There are many companies which uses the same system, not all but there are some. So it's nothing that only NL does. If i remember correctly Autodesk has such a policy, you cannot sell and/or transfer your license. / Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 It will get you in serious trouble doing so. Yeah, I'ld hate to have Victor mad at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Too many jokes... must resist mocking Victor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo51 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I have a quite a few software titles and they ALL have transferable licenses... oh... except Maxwell. I'm not sure why NL would do this... it seriously reduces the software intrinsic value. What if I get out of the biz... or decide I don't like maxwell (happens every week like clockwork) Why CAN'T I sell it? Who is that hurting really? My 2c is that it's plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamT Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 If i remember correctly Autodesk has such a policy, you cannot sell and/or transfer your license. You can't transfer you license without permission, but I'm told that this is more or less a formality. Maxwell is the only software I know of with a no-ifs-ands-or-buts no transfer policy. Greedy bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 What about the usual if-you-go-out-of-business-and-sell-all-your-assets-as-a-package clause? Even Autodesk allows that one by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PopArt Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 You can't transfer you license without permission, but I'm told that this is more or less a formality. Maxwell is the only software I know of with a no-ifs-ands-or-buts no transfer policy. Greedy bastards. LOL:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giacob Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 what about other render engine? v-ray, f-prime, mentalray,frender, brazil etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I do not think the current situation allows for an ethically acceptable sale of your MWR licence, even if you list the facts before someone buys it. Assuming the buyer understood the situation completely, why wouldn't it be ethical? Frankly, I'm not sure that NL's constraints on license transfer are even recognized as legal by (at least the US) government. I've heard others make similar comments with regards to EU regulations. NL says all sorts of stuff that bears no relationship to reality, so certainly don't take their word for it. And while I'd hate to have a Mad Max or Victor breathing down my neck with threats of 'big trouble', I think I could survive BTW, it's also worth noting that they made up this rule about licenses being non-transferrable *after* I purchased it. Many others share this situation. There simply was no such stipulation in the user agreement at the time of purchase. Dunno about you, but my clients wouldn't like it if I change the terms of a contract to my advantage after it was agreed upon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus3D Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Adehus, you should try to avoid bullshitting other people here on this forum. If you can't do that then you should know when you keep the lid on. Try to think before you talk (or type) please. / Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Let's not turn this into a fight, NL says that you can't transfer licenses and since none of us are lawyers I'd say that were probably going to have to go along with what they say. I don't like it any more than you do but if that is their policy then there is very little we can do about it. I would not advise anyone to sell their copies of Maxwell unless they had written permission from NL to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 What did I say wrong, Max? Regardless of whether or not their restrictions are legal, we know they can't put that restriction on their licenses after they sell it. That much there is no doubt about. I bought it without any such restriction, and if I get the urge to sell, I'll sell it without any concern for NL's wishes on the matter. NL's claims to license control are as sensible as their claims to integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamT Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I'm a lawyer. It's not something I've researched, but I very much doubt they could enforce the restriction if it wasn't included in the original agreement. The problem is that the person you sold the license to wouldn't have access to tech support (hahahaha) or updates/upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I also bought without the "no resales" restriction. But like everything else Maxwell, without a lawyer and lots of spare money and time and energy you are simply F*ed. Legally there's a lot we could do to them. No-one has the time, money or inclination to force a bunch of jerks to behave themselves. I said 'morally' because I don't think knowing what I know of the ethics of NextLimit I could sell my licences to anyone else, thus getting them involved with such vermin. It was my mistake and I'll live with it. But I cannot pass it on to anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adehus Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I said 'morally' because I don't think knowing what I know of the ethics of NextLimit I could sell my licences to anyone else, thus getting them involved with such vermin. It was my mistake and I'll live with it. But I cannot pass it on to anyone else. That's the best argument against reselling I've heard so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now