lala18 Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Hi. My computer configuration is Pentium 4, 1.8GH RAM 512 So that render takes 2 long, I want to exchange one of them. Is it enough? What should I do exchange Pentium 4, 1.8GH or to add RAM 512? Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTaylor Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 you'll find upgrading either will make a difference....... i'd suggest the cheapest solution will be upgrading RAM to a 1GB or better still 2GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Or get a new computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala18 Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 Or get a new computer. With same configuration? Don't give so clever solution. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I mean a new one. Think about it - to get a major upgrade to a P4-1.8 would require a new MB, maybe new RAM and power supply. A computer of that vintage probably has a much slower video card than you can get these days... you can get a new computer with all these new components for a few hundred dollars, and even if it's a value line consumer PC it will cost you less, especially when you factor in time and aggravation. Just don't get one so cheap that it doesn't have a PCIE x16 slot in case you want to upgrade the video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Andrew is correct. even the cheapo pc's in your local computer shop these days will probably be more highly spec'd than yours. and they are pretty cheap too. a couple hundred bucks. but, if your budget really is limited, then i'd personally double or treble the RAM. unfortunately, unless your a hobbyist and want to make a seriuos effort in the arch viz industry, you really must invest in decent kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala18 Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 Thx. But I don’t understand MB part. Because my MB has already support the Pentium4. For full info My computer components is CPU Pentium 4, 1.8GH RAM 512mb MB MSI 845 EV Video card MSI FX5200-T128,128 MB. 2. Also pls advice me a new components for new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 The 845's are older P4 MBs, they won't support a very fast CPU and they're limited by their FSB speed and which P4 variants they can use. If you want more performance without spending much, add a lot more RAM, but I've seen ads for dual-core PCs 3x-4x as fast as a P4 1.8 for under $500, so if you have a decent budget it makes more sense to go to new hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVC Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 AMD Athlon X2 has just had a new price , i recommend you think about this option , for a fast PC only ~700$ now !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOOXY Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I think if you're seriously considering a career into archviz ...invest in a new machine,cause the frustration will only get to you especially with those demading 3d programs..i'm currently running a laptop with a P4 3.2 WITH HT..and 2 gigs ram with a 128 pci xpress graphics card and that's already becoming frustrating especilly when u get used to the speed of the machine..hope this helps:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala18 Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hi. I reviewed CPU prices. There is huge difference in prices between of AMD and Pentium4 CPU. Does the AMD’s CPU with 2Ghz speed equal with Pentium4’s CPU 2Ghz speed? Because huge difference between them in prices, although the ‘Ghz’ in both the same. For instance for price of AMD with power 2Ghz, it’s possible to buy Pentium4 with power 3,2Ghz. In dual core the same think. I confused:confused: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Yes they both started doing things that did nothing but confuse people, AMD started using numbers to describe their CPU's and Intel kept raising their GHZ even when the speed wasn't there, it might have been an accurate speed in the form of GHZ, but it sure wasn't that fast... So with all that said Intel's new chips the Core2's are now back on par with their AMD equivelents, I just bought a laptop for $700 that is more than twice as fast as my desktop, it uses the Core duo chip from Intel, this new architecture has forced AMD to lower their prices, so you are in luck, either the Core2's from Intel, or the X2's from Amd are both very cheap and very fast Oh, by the way that laptop that blows away my desktop is only 1.66 ghz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 AMD chips are faster than P4s with the same GHz numbers, which is why AMD started using an alternative numbering scheme. For example, an Athlon64 that runs at 2GHz but is rated as 3000+ is as fast as a 3GHz P4. To make it more confusing, with the AthlonX2 dual cores they got funky with the numbering - for example, an AthlonX2 3800+ is actually a 2GHz dual-core Athlon64, which is as fast as a dual P4 3GHz. In general, the AMDs have been outperforming the Intels at lower prices for a while now, but the Core2 Duo line from Intel has caught up. I don't know about availability where you are, so if in doubt get a dual-core AMD, and it will be 3x-4x as fast as what you have now. Also, if in doubt get 2GB RAM and keep slots open in case you decide you need to upgrade later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala18 Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 While I mentioned different between prices I mean that AMD higher than INTEL. Where you see that AMD decrease prices than INTEL. Just look to Amazon.com AMD in twice higher than INTEL. And it made me confusing because how ‘AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Processor Socket 939” with 2.4GHz can be higher than Pentium 4 with 3.2 GHz, also not slightly but twicely. In my country AMD higher triply than INTEL. I agree with Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 While I mentioned different between prices I mean that AMD higher than INTEL. Where you see that AMD decrease prices than INTEL. Just look to Amazon.com AMD in twice higher than INTEL. And it made me confusing because how ‘AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Processor Socket 939” with 2.4GHz can be higher than Pentium 4 with 3.2 GHz, also not slightly but twicely. In my country AMD higher triply than INTEL. I agree with Andrew. You're going to find alot of price discrepancies out there, they're still selling the old P4's for around the same price as an X2, and there is no comparison in speed...the X2 is probably twice as fast... examples: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007KQLBA/sr=8-1/qid=1154975128/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-4966706-5134228?ie=UTF8 and http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009RKLRG/sr=8-3/qid=1154975311/ref=pd_bbs_3/103-4966706-5134228?ie=UTF8 The only Intel chips you should be looking at are the Core2, all others are obsolete... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Zhala- That's because that AMD chip is newer and much better than that Intel. It's a dual 2.4GHx CPU (that's what the X2 in the name means) and you can multiply the AMD MHz by 1.5 (because the AMD uses a different architecture that can do more computation per clock cycle than the P4) to get an approximation of the P4 MHz. And most render engines take full advantage of the dual core. So I would expect the X2 4800+ to render twice as fast as a single P4 3.6GHz CPU. That AMD architecture advantage applies when comparing to Intel's Netburst chips - the P4 and the Xeons before the 5100 series. The Pentium M, Core Duo, Core 2 Duo and Xeon 5100 series are much closer to the AMD architecture, so you can more easily compare - for example, a 2.4GHz dual-core from one of those series would have a bit of an edge over the Athlon X2 4800+ 2.4GHz, and similar price/performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala18 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hi to all. Ur opinions for CPU Apple MAC G-5 Dual Processors. AMD I have to order, but this CPU is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 The G5 Macs do not run Windows, only MacOS, so you'd be looking at a different set of availabe software. Don't change platforms just because the CPU you wanted is backordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala18 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Do these components enough for fast rendering? CPU Athlon 64 X2 5000+ ,AM2, Box M/B ASUS M2NPV-VM Graphic Card ASUS EN7300GS 128MB PCIex RAM Corsair 1024MB DDR2 PC-800 KIT (2x512MB) HDD 40GB or Samsung HD080HJ 80GB 7200 8MB CD-R/RW MSI CR52 CD-R/RW Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Get more RAM. You'll also want a larger hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hess Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 If the system is also being used for graphical work, you might want to upgrade the video card. A 7300 is really the lowest model of the current generation. Something more along the lines of a 7600 or 7900 would be a more appropriate choice, especially if you enjoy a game now and again. Of course you could just get the 7300 and upgrade to a dx10 generation graphics card in a few months. You should also remember that gigahertz numbers are utterly useless in regards to comparing performance between processors in different families. Processor speed is only a useful guage of performance when compared to other processors in the same lineup. ie a Pentium 3 1000 is obviously faster then a Pentium 3 700. However a 1500 Pentium IV is not faster then a Pentium 3 1000. See what I mean? Same family, ok to use numbers to compare. Different family? Hit the web for tests and feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldgaite Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 well my suggestion is, that is my opinion of course... replace the P4 to Pentium D.... or any new dual cores in the market today. i think its not only memory that matters but the processing power of a computer too! ronski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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