tecton3d Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I just got the Logitech Cordless DesktopS 510 keyboard + mouse package and am somewhat satisfied with everything exept the way the mouse wheel (with the shite "tilt wheel" feature) can't be used like a traditional "dumb" mouse wheel to pan and zoom extents in acad or max. I've tried messing with the software to change the settings of the mouse wheel but nothing gives me the old-fashined pan function when clicking the wheel and dragging. Is there a software out there that will correct this issue? thanks note: mbuttonpan = 0/1 ... doesn't change anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I recommend fixing this in hardware. But, Logitech doesn't give you a utility that can assign a Windows function to that? For me the assignment is "universal scrolling" (that's in Razer's utility). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 there is a utility provided by Logitech but the "universal" scrolling function still fails to make the "wheel click and pan" work. when I scroll with the wheel it zooms in and out ~ that's ok... but when I click the wheel, it always initiates the horizontal scroll... annoying. I'll just use my good old mx310 until I can dig up a fix. thanks p.s. how do you like that Razor? ... looks nice and light : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 The Razer is great. I have it cranked up to 1000MHz and 1600DPI and compensate by turning down Windows acceleration, which makes for very accurate and non-jumpy mousing. I also got a Razer Control mouse pad. (Sorry, now they're called "Precision Mousing Surface".) It's enormous, which I like. BTW, cranked up the CPU a bit more 2960MHz, Cinebench 918 rendering, 5254 OpenGL. 47C loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 your mouse sounds like a Ferrari : ) I have an Xtrac Zoom pad and it's alright unless your hand makes a little moisture on the pad then it's like you're dragging the thing across flypaper ~ not an ideal situ for a mousepad. that's great with your E6400 Conroe... the more I think of it, the more I'm tempted so just keep on posting those wicked benchie #'s and I'll cave and buy a setup soon enough:D hell, I'm actually thinking of selling my dual optie workstation and 4 oc'd xeon nodes (mobo's ram cpu's hsf's and extra cpu's) in order to get 2 6300/6400 conroe rendering rigs in addition to a new 6600/6700 workstation... that's an awful lot of parts swapping but may be well worth it;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I wouldn't even recommend bothering with the 6700 - I can't see it being worth the extra money considering how fast you can get a 6400 or 6600 to go. I can see a 6600 being worth it for the extra cache. Get some 975 MB and 400MHz RAM that specs above 2V, I've seen people with slower RAM have issues when going into the high 300 range. I keep wanting to take the clock on this higher, but there's got to be a limit and I must be pressing my luck, though it shows no signs of trouble. BTW, render time on that scanline teapot scene is 4:39 at 2960MHz, but I don't know how useful it is a benchmark, since it spends so much time calculating raytrace maps which doesn't use the full multi-CPUness. Also, I'm staying in 32-bit Windows because I'm not happy with the software support in 64-bit yet, but when it gets a bit better I'll upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 3120MHz seems to be the max stable clock. 969 rendering, 5432 OpenGL. But it's getting a bit weird on me and the CPU temp gets to 50C so I'm backing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 I wouldn't even recommend bothering with the 6700 - I can't see it being worth the extra money considering how fast you can get a 6400 or 6600 to go. I can see a 6600 being worth it for the extra cache. Get some 975 MB and 400MHz RAM that specs above 2V, I've seen people with slower RAM have issues when going into the high 300 range. I keep wanting to take the clock on this higher, but there's got to be a limit and I must be pressing my luck, though it shows no signs of trouble. BTW, render time on that scanline teapot scene is 4:39 at 2960MHz, but I don't know how useful it is a benchmark, since it spends so much time calculating raytrace maps which doesn't use the full multi-CPUness. Also, I'm staying in 32-bit Windows because I'm not happy with the software support in 64-bit yet, but when it gets a bit better I'll upgrade. very true about the E6700 and its cost, dunno yet... I'd like to think such a chip would guarantee a little more of an OC but it is an awful lot of money from the 6600 which, like you said, has the cache and is the sweet spot in the lineup. yeah, if that scene is non-smp favored it's kinda rubbish to use it as a benchie... a simple scene with a couple million faces and full GI would do the trick to get those buckets turning over. what exactly are you having trouble with x64? I've almost bought in several times but haven't for this exact reason?? Mabe Vista will provide some 64bit relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 3120MHz seems to be the max stable clock. 969 rendering, 5432 OpenGL. But it's getting a bit weird on me and the CPU temp gets to 50C so I'm backing off. those are wicked scores for a proc... I still can't beleive that these Core2's are doing ~ what HSF/case cooling are you using? If you could stand more fan noise, you may be able to go a bit higher, but nobody wants to sit next to a computer that sounds like a hairdryer;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Some glitchy drivers, the utils I wanted to use for monitoring the OC didn't function, my Norton stuff didn't work... actually, not very good reasons, but with the OC'ed MB I wanted the environment and utils I was most familiar with. I'll have another go if I start getting into files that suffer from lack of 64-bitness, but considering I've now got a higher Cinebench OpenGL score than I've ever seen before I don't know what it would take to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 those are wicked scores for a proc... I still can't beleive that these Core2's are doing ~ what HSF/case cooling are you using? If you could stand more fan noise, you may be able to go a bit higher, but nobody wants to sit next to a computer that sounds like a hairdryer;) It's the Freezer Pro 7 (good fit for my case) and a Lian-Li PC60 (aluminum midtower with 5 fans - good cooling). Actually, heat isn't a problem, highest I've been able to make it go is 50C. I think the clocks or memory just can't handle those speeds. Maybe with looser memory timings. Maybe it's just that everything I know about CPUs tells me all of this is impossible, PCs can't do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Some glitchy drivers, the utils I wanted to use for monitoring the OC didn't function, my Norton stuff didn't work... actually, not very good reasons, but with the OC'ed MB I wanted the environment and utils I was most familiar with. I'll have another go if I start getting into files that suffer from lack of 64-bitness, but considering I've now got a higher Cinebench OpenGL score than I've ever seen before I don't know what it would take to do that. ... really bad scene organization ~ or just really big files [me puts dork hat on] It would be fun (and ignorantly expensive) to load up my K8WE with 16gigs and xp64 and see what happens:D [me takes dork hat off] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Maybe it's just that everything I know about CPUs tells me all of this is impossible, PCs can't do this. ... gotta love it when Conroe bumps your hardware/technical compass a bit:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 This isn't even a Conroe, it's an Allendale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 This isn't even a Conroe, it's an Allendale ... you made me look that up:mad: from our friends @wiki "Allendale is a codename for stripped down versions of the Conroe processors with only 2MB of L2 cache. The E6300 (1.86GHz) and E6400 (2.13GHz), both with a 1066MT/s FSB, were released on July 27, 2006. Traditionally, CPUs of the same family with less cache simply have the unavailable cache disabled, but this is not the case with Allendale. Allendale actually has a smaller die, which results in less heat production and a higher overclock. Some Allendale CPUs have been shown to overclock better than Conroe CPUs because of the smaller die size and lower temperatures. At launch time, Intel's prices for the Core 2 Duo E6300 and E6400 processors were $183 USD and $224 USD each in quantities of 1000." No wonder you're only @ 50'C... I'd like to see some benchies with OC'd 6400's and OC'd 6600's @ the same clock to see what that L2 is really worth:D [...i'll just keep the dork hat on] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 there is a utility provided by Logitech but the "universal" scrolling function still fails to make the "wheel click and pan" work. when I scroll with the wheel it zooms in and out ~ that's ok... but when I click the wheel, it always initiates the horizontal scroll... annoying. I'll just use my good old mx310 until I can dig up a fix. pulling up a dead thread..... did you ever get this issue resolved? I just got a new logitech dinovo media desktop. I'm really digging the slim styling, bluetooth connection and detached media remote pad..... but I'm fighting the same thing you ran into with pan and scroll in MAX. :-\ Before I installed the logitech software the mouse was functioning properly with just a standard bluetooth connection to windows XP. but then when I installed the logitech drivers to get all of the other functionality out of the hardware I lost my pan and scroll...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 guess I should have just googled it.... in logitech's setpoint software you have to disable the scroll ball, set it to "other" and tell it to act as a middle mouse button..... go figure, you have to turn it off to make it work like normal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecton3d Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 good to hear you got things figured out Brian. I ended up going with old and faithful mx310 instead of the wireless mouse that gave me the trouble to start with. proust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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