ingo Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Wow, a house >>The first sketch is just a colour study, ignore the composition, bad perspective, wrong shaped shadow.. So what should we critizise if you do it all yourself ????? Well the picture looks like you dont know what you want to show us, is your goal to show us a house or a landscape. You should imho give at least one of them more room so one can see if its a house with a nice landscape or a landscape with a house somewhere in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 >>The first sketch is just a colour study, ignore the composition, bad perspective, wrong shaped shadow... So what should we critizise if you do it all yourself ?????Errrm...colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingo Posted June 30, 2003 Author Share Posted June 30, 2003 Oh yes, color (colour) ! I think you can make a smoother transition of the green field to the horizon, it seems there is a seam at the end of the house. Otherwise nice atmosphere, despite the shadows..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Hi Kid, I like the yellow sunlight / blue shadow play. The roof is okay too. Green and blue (sky and grass) look a bit unreal to me... rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nichchris Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Hi Kid... >>> I posted this in another forum for some feedback but I guess with no Orcs, Dragons, or >>> anatomically impossible manga chicks in it no-one was interested. Man I just can't stop laughing... I say that all the time.. these guys all revolve around one another... it's so hilarious.. I wouldn't bother expecting them to be a little creative I would rather waste my time beleiving in Santa Clause! btw: you forgot one.. spaceships! LOL! and I also know who that "other" forum is! Hey... Is that like a real painting... or CG? If it's a painting, cool, I like it.. nice use of color. regardless of the comp. Keep at it. nichchris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Green and blue (sky and grass) look a bit unreal to me...any ideas/suggestions? btw: you forgot one.. spaceships!Damn...space ships. How could I forget! Is that like a real painting... or CG? If it's a painting, cool, I like it..Done photoshop 7...so that must mean you don't like it then I actually find it harder working with colour in photoshop because you can't just mix the various colours to get the shade you need, like for the tonal colour of an object for example, you have to do the mixing in your head then pick what you think the answer is from the palette, if you know what I mean... If the final photoshop painting turns out alright I'll probably develop the idea a bit more and do it with oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Originally posted by kid: Done photoshop 7...so that must mean you don't like it then I actually find it harder working with colour in photoshop because you can't just mix the various colours to get the shade you need, like for the tonal colour of an object for example, you have to do the mixing in your head then pick what you think the answer is from the palette, if you know what I mean... If the final photoshop painting turns out alright I'll probably develop the idea a bit more and do it with oil. why not work in Painter instead of Photoshop? the tools in Painter are geared towards.... painting. not sure if they have a demo version or not. they are bought and sold so much i am not even sure who owns them anymore, i think it might be Corel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 I have Painter Classic and it's the same deal, just with a crappy interface. Although Painter 8 now has a proper colour mixing palette, and I'm playing with the demo at the moment, I doubt I'll buy it because photoshop does adequately for 90% of what I do, and money is not an abundant commodity for me while I'm studying. I'd rather spend my money on oils, canvas and beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard McCarthy Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 I felt there is something missing in the painting.. colour wise. perhaps it's lacking in some tertiary colours to spice up the painting perhaps? right now it still feel kinda rudimentary in term of colour play. -RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nichchris Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 Howdy Kid! Done photoshop 7...so that must mean you don't like it then Huh... you know I just don't get it how people can paint in photoshop... I just don't understand it. Sure you got wacom and all but I can't wrap my head around it.. some pics look so much like a digital copy of a painting. its weird. As for likeing it or not.. well I like what I see, It's just rare to see an actual painted painting in a CG forum... Maybe bring in a tree or two with shadows, animals maybe, some rocks and stuff like that.. A fence, i dunno.. Or for the fun of it.. maybe a butt naked chick.. might work! But seriously.. what I get from this painting.. (if I may) is a childs faible .. like hansel & grettle maybe you should aim for that kind of image... ad two kids running after a dog.. with a women hanging the close out to dry.. .. gotta go.. phone! nichchris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 I posted this in another forum for some feedback but I guess with no Orcs, Dragons, or anatomically impossible manga chicks in it no-one was interested. The first sketch is just a colour study, ignore the composition, bad perspective, wrong shaped shadow... Are the colours working or does it look like mud? The second sketch is a thumbnail of an idea I have for the final composition, more or less. As one of the main things I'm trying to push in this painting is depth of landscape I've situated the house in such a way that the front of the house leads the eye 'into' the painting. Is it working do you think? Open to any and all comments, critique, suggestions. PS. Colour sketch done in Photoshop 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbr Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 what I get from this painting.. (if I may) is a childs faible At first glance, I'd have to agree. The second sketch seems to add a significant amount of complexity to the composition, bringing the focus more to the building and it's relationship to the topography, where as the frist one seemed kinda plopped on the landscape. These are some images I am sticking in a current animation - your sketch reminded me of these ones: You may also want to look at Van Gogh's wheat field paintings, they are some of my favs. http://www.vangoghgallery.com/misc/search_frame.htm (they've disabled the right click menu, though) PS - I'll figure this image posting thing out next time around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 thanks for the feedback. If you imagine the compositional sketch with the colours of the colour study sketch, and some added complexity/signs of life (remembering that it's only a 6cm x 4cm thumbnail sketch composing the general idea, far from a complete technical drawing) does it still look like a children's fable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbr Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 imo, what will make the most difference is the transition of colors. The perspective will make a big difference (children's books, I think, are drawn with simplicity in mind, like an axonometric - your first image), too. Those image that I tried to post (yet again ) have really nice transitions of colors. There is always a nice focal point, but the more you look the more the colors fade into each other. Have you tried Painter? I've got a CArts that has a review of 8 and they love it, seems like a nice tutorial about painting over a computer image, too. But it looks like you've got the 'painterly' style going, anyway. Can't wait to see how it progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 LOL, MBR. Should I write a tutorial on posting images I've worked on the composition some more, life/activity will be added...early days yet. Sorry for the poor image quality but I couldn't be bothered untaping it from my desk to scan it, so I digi-cam shot it... Comments, critique, suggestions, welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 The perspective is very extreme--is there a reason for that? I think it would be a more pleasing image if the eyepoint were pulled back anywhere from some to a lot. As it is, the drawing is more about the tight vanishing point than the real subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Originally posted by Ernest Burden: The perspective is very extreme--is there a reason for that?No reason. I just stuffed it up. It didn't feel tight until I drew the second storey part, but I want to keep that part, so I'll sketch it out again with less perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Green and blue (sky and grass) look a bit unreal to me... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- any ideas/suggestions? --> Desaturate AND take a close look at real landscapes rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Originally posted by nisus: Desaturate AND take a close look at real How boring! LOL, no offence man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingo Posted July 2, 2003 Author Share Posted July 2, 2003 I think you misunderstood nisus's post, "Desaturate AND take a close look at real landscapes ;)" means "take a sixpack and get out on the beach and enjoy the scenery" And thats of course not boring....at least what i remember from my visit to Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 LOL. that would be nice if it was Summer, but it's cold and wet here at the moment. Nisus, sorry if my reply seemed a bit on the offensive. I was joking, just forget to put the at the end. I started painting, still working on how to compose the house. I think I'm going to push it way back into the landscape. [ July 02, 2003, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: kid ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 offensive??? --> not at all. I hardly take anything personally. (I try to do it always) Anyway, what resolution are you making the painting at. Nice colors, love them now! rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I'm painting at 2000 pixels wide @ 200dpi This is a part at 100% zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Very nice! Is that ps or p? (photoshop or painter?) rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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