aligrafix Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hi guys. At last my boss is ready to spend money to upgrade systems so i need a system based on Intel Core2Duo Based System. I mean i want processor by intel.So here is specs to match. I need suggession on video cards and processors with combination of mother boards. Intel Core2Duo 1.8GHz 4MB Cache with 1066 FSB (If higher will be better then with which motherboard?) Motherboard Intel 975 Chipset/ 965 Chipset. (For Dual CPUs) 2GB Ram DDR2 533 Bus speed Video Card (here i need suggessions) Which one is best for my max with vray as well as after effects and combustion. Also i need Dual display (for CRT flat Monitors). Sorry i am not mentioning the CPU number coz i dont know enough, but i want dual display plus best viewport navigation and fast renders. Just i want best system to meet my demands for architectural projects. So kindly suggesst me best video cards . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I just got this one this week. It rocks! Did a few quick tests on some scenes. It's about 120% faster than a 3.06GHz HT machine and about 15% faster than the core duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Dear Brian I cannot see the pdf file you have uploaded to see. Kindly re-check it. I also want to tell you that here, branded systems are not available so i will have to build up my own. Therefore i requested for the best i should build. I need suggessions which one is best regarding motherboard, memory and CPU. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 The pdf works fine if you have the latest Adobe Acrobat installed (7.0). The specs are shown for what i think is the best hardware value is, ie, processor type, RAM, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 That's a good deal but I think Ali's talking about a desktop. Ali: are you assembling this yourself, having it assembled by somebody who lets you choose the make ad model of all the parts, or otherwise have complete control of exactly what parts are used? If you buy from a large company like Dell, you'll get a low price but lose some advantages like the ability to overclock and your selection of components will be somewhat limited. Since there isn't a Core 2 Duo 1.8 with 4MB, I'd recommend an E6400 or E6600 for their price/performance and ability to overclock. If price isn't as important, and you can't overclock, go higher end on that. For the MB, I can't really recommend what I have (MSI 975X) because of a few annoying habits it has, but I hear nothing but good things about the Asus P5B Deluxe. RAM: If you want to overclock, get faster RAM than you need (e.g. a good brand's PC2-6400 offering). Also, overclocking requires a good power supply (better than would therwise be recommended for a Core2) and an upgraded heatsink/fan (look for something heavy with a lot of copper fins and a big fan - the one Intel gives you in the box isn't good enough). For the video card, I've currently got machines running FireGL v5100, Radeon x1600 mobile (modded to FireGL v5200) and Quadro FX1500, and I like al of them. The v5100 actually gives me the best Cinebench hardware OpenGL score I've ever seen (over 5400) when paired with the Core2 Duo 2.8. Since DirectX works so well with Max9, if that's what you're using you probably don't need a workstation card - you can use a good Geforce card with 256MB or more that is NOT a "TC" or "TurboCache" model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 What's your budget ? There is also the nForce 680i Platform, could be cool with a Core2 Quad when they come out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Dear AJLynn Thanks for your details. sorry for my incomplete information. You have suggessted best processor. I want to go for E6600 processor. Second, i will go to the vender and he will take processor, motherboard and memory etc, and assemble it for me. I dont know how to work with overclocking but i have heard that it is crazy way to go. Well, now, a system based on E6600 processor, can you tell me the motherboard? and Ram too. I am thinking about 600Watts powersupply for this system. By installing SCSI drive (system drive) and Sata drives (video or data drives), i want a performance based Video Card. Now a days, i have matrox parhelia APVe, (dual display+video out+Video in) capability, but it is bad with max, works good with after effects for compositing but i am not satisfied with its performance. Even it doesnt give me Dxsahder to work in max viewports. I want a better graphic card. this card costs me $416 approx but my friend who has Nvidia chipset geforce graphic card, it works better than mine which costs him only $133 only. well, i need a better graphic card. Now my boss is ready to spend some money and approx he has $1500 budget. the second company where i work, the boss has $3750 budget approx. Kindly guide me systems according to budget too.If this budget isnt enough, can you guys guide me which system will be best which comes within this budget? Currently i own,,, 3.0 Ghz 2MB Cache with 800 FSB Intel 915 GAV motherboard 2GB kingston 400 Bus DDR Memory 80GB and 200 GB SATA drives. I want to go for a better system but i dont wana install Pentium D processor.i want a system with a single CPU and then when my boss will go to spend more,, i will just install the second CPU and it will improve the performance as well by installing just a second CPU. What do u guys think about it? is this good idea to save boss's money and also low cost upgrade. I dont know about hardware enough to work with. Branded systems available here are Dell, Compaq etc but they are high priced and after sales service is very bad. The vendor will give me choice to choose parts by myself and then assemble it so i have enough choice, just want to install best performance based parts and upgradable too. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 For the lower budget one, get a Core 2 Duo E6400 or E6300 and overclock the crap out of it, just follow what I said for the other parts, use a 500W power supply (mine is 480, I've OC'ed the crap out of my E6400 and I have a FireGL, 4 hard drives, 2 DVD drives and 5 case fans in there) and the best Geforce card you can budget. Do not under any circumstances buy a Pentium D or Pentium 4 Do buy a Core2-series, even on a low budget. Get 2GB RAM as a matched pair of 1GB PC2-6400 DIMMs from a good company and you can add another 2 (still matched) later if you want. That Matrox card is meant for video editing performance, I'm not surprised it's not performing well in Max. For the more expensive PC, get 4GB RAM and 4 cores - whether that's 2 Xeon 51xx, one Xeon 53xx with the option to add another later, or a Core 2 Extreme QX, the 600W power supply and a more high-end video card, a badass case and the best heatsink unit you can find. (I have an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro, which is good, but there are some that are even better.) Don't bother with SCSI, get SATA drives with 16MB cache. For extra speed, get matched pairs and RAID0 them. For the more expensive system, consider RAID0+1 or RAID5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Thanks for the info. I am glad to hear about it. so the program is going on for Core2Duo E6300. It can be extended to E6600. Can you tell me about the motherbaord which should give me best throughput for this processor. i want to use motherbard having dual option so that i install the first E6600 and then install the second when i have enough money. Also i should go for FireGl or Geforce? thats it. thanks again AJLynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 The core2 duo's are for single slot motherboards, Xeons are for dual slot motherboards... But you will be able to upgrade to the coe2 quad when they come out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minh Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm using Geforce card and it doesn't work very well with Max. IMO, geforce card only works well when you're playing video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Right Dear. i am going for Core2Dou E6400 Based processor but can anybody tell me which graphics Card is best for working on max and other 3D and compositing applications like After Effects. does it work great on OpenGL and Direct X? i am going to finalize the quotation to vender. Thanks for support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 If it's Max9, you might as well get a good Geforce or Radeon card and use DirectX (which is what Geforce cards are good at). For earlier versions, there's a decent argument in favor of using a QuadroFX card with Maxtreme - but not for the lower budget system. The cards that are good for Max don't have any special optimizations to work with video compositing and editing programs, and you're probably not going to see much difference there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Feforce and Quadro are good, you are right. But i was actually asking about the better model. Dont bother on price. I am planning to install Matrox RTX-100 Extreme pro for video eiditng and compositing (PCI Card) and install the video card which can be either Geforce card or ATI. I am asking which one is better. Can you tell me specifically ADJYNN? I wana finalize the deal with vender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Oh. Is it GeForce vs ATI Radeon? I don't want to get involved in any kind of ATI vs nVidia thing, and I'm really not sure which is "better", but the best ones currently available are ATI Radeon x1950XTX and Geforce 8800GTX. The 8800 is very new, so if you can't find it the next best Geforce is a 79xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Matthews Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Ali, Below is the link to the same type of system that you and everyone else has been talking about. I priced everything there and it is around $1800 (U.S.). See if your boss will give you a few extra dollars to spend and get two systems then set up a small renderfarm. http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/19961-new-machine-need-final-advice.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 Thanks Sat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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