Ken Walton Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Hey everyone... Rip it up... I know the design of the building sucks - these aren't exactly "high-priced" condos - but I tried to do the best I could with it. Any tips on composition (or anything else!)would be greatly appreciated. By the way - this is being used to pick the colors of the building/roof right now and these were the developer's first choices - not mine. http://www.cgarchitect.com/forum/filepush.asp?file=better_grad.jpg Thanks in advance, Ken Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Walton Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 Wait - here's another one with my choice of roof, a little more contrast and a little better cropping... http://www.cgarchitect.com/forum/filepush.asp?file=planted4.jpg Thanks, Ken Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Aranguren Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 hey ken... i like it... but you can do better with the illumination. anyway nice for the first one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishpalsingh Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 hey buddy, good work could u post the lighting setup,please :ebiggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Walton Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 One sunlight. finalRender - I'll post settings tomorrow (about 10 hours). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Walton Posted March 3, 2004 Author Share Posted March 3, 2004 I appreciate you taking the time to reply, but "you can do better with the illumination" and "Lighting needed some bit touch" don't really tell me anything. I realize that there is something lacking in the lighting, but this being my first exterior - I'm clueless as to where to start working on improvements. Any comments or suggestions for improvement will be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 I would suggest the following: Desaturated the greens by about 40%, and then add a hint of yellow and red to the image overall (just a tiny little amount) to improve the suggestion of warm sunlight. Use a photographic image for the sky, what you have at the moment doesn't contain enough cyan. Change the camera view to eye level, and be wary of parralax distortion! Add in some people using the space (e.g. walking up the stairs), and you should be heading towards a good image! I actually think the quality of the render has a lot of potential - the grass and foliage will be very good once they're desaturated down to a more natural hue, and you actually have some quite subtle tonal variations already present in the shadows (you can set VIZ 4 to desaturate low light levels when you render). Keep at it and good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 I like it, especially for a first try. What kind of trees and bushes are those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nangkri Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 hi, i like the palm & ones i just looking the palm, can you send me that btw, nice i like that image best regards nangkri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Walton Posted March 3, 2004 Author Share Posted March 3, 2004 Ok - thanks so much for the input. With the exception of the people and the camera angle, I've tried implenting the suggestions so far with photoshop. Here are the results: http://www.cgarchitect.com/forum/filepush.asp?file=planted_mod2.jpg I think it looks a lot better already. The plants are all full-3D EasyNat objects from Bionatics (I'm kinda pissed about this special they've got going on - I bought $1200 worth of plants on Feb. 27th, and NOBODY I talked to at Bionatics mentioned that in five days, I could get 50% more for free...) Anyway, thanks for the advice so far. Anything else? Kenny Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Do the EasyNat objects slow your render down very much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelfoZ Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 try to add some texture in the sidewalk and the parking concrete. move the sun a little down. if the sun touch the "interior" walls, maybe the imagen seems better. The palms r very darks for me. and post ur settings & Try with Monte Carlo , for exterior r very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhanu Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Nice work ...some few suggestions... Camera position may be brought down. Lighting needed some bit touch. Palms turned bit darker...tone them down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Walton Posted March 3, 2004 Author Share Posted March 3, 2004 Ray: Yes - when the easyNat objects are in 3D (even on the lowest LOD) the polygon count skyrockets, as does the render time. This image rendered in 3 hours. EasyNat does offer the feature of converting your 3D plants into hybrid 2d/3d objects or into 2D billboards, but the map generation seems very unstable to me - takes forever or doesn't finish at all sometimes. DelfoZ: I appreciate your advice, as I truly admire your work. My machine's in the middle of another render right now, but I think I can remember my settings. Dual Xeon 2.4's/1GB RAM/Win2k/Max 6/finalRender-1/Photoshop 1 Sunlight system - Mult: 1 | fR Raytraced Shadows Anit-Aliasing on - min: 0 max: 3 Consider Background on GI On Bounces:5 Skylight on: .6 Rays: 128 Sec Rays (off) Density: 50 Min/max: 7 Forgetting anything? I'll try lowering the sun - seems like a good idea. The concrete structures are textured - maybe I can increase the bump depth a little. The palms appear dark to me when I view them on my work (good) monitors, but everywhere else I've seen them (and in print) they look right. I'll try the Monte Carlo engine - but when I first attempted to render this scene, max said I didn't have enough memory to complete the raytrace (thingy)..... I closed some of the other programs I had open to get it to work, but right now it seems like it's at its max. Will the Monte Carlo kill it? Thanks, Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Looks pretty good so far Ken. My suggestion would also be to adjust the saturation of your plants. They are very dark on my screen. Especially the palms. The building looks very good. The shadows and colors are nice and you can tell there is a lot of light bouncing around on your last image. The roof material seems a bit dark, is it a shingle roof. I don't agree with rpc elements being added, they are too fake looking and will ruin an otherwise good image. Maybe a car or two. Keep at it, your very close to having a great image here! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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