Greg Steckler Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Okay, its time to ask for help. I've got a 7 story hotel that in ADT is a little over a 1/2 meg file size. When I bring it into Max9 (I'm a newbie at max, relatively good at ADT) it balloons up to over 100 megs. It's got about 600,000 polys. Lots of railing. So how do I get it smaller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFK_Matrix Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 How are you brining it in mate? Is it via the File Link Manager? If it is try and cut down on as many layers as possible by clicking on the select layers to include button. The other option is to do the model in Max and use ADT to line up your plans and elevations. I have just started to do this as I used to do the model in ADT then bring it over to Max. I am actually finding it a bit faster to get the houses done as there is less messing about to be done with the ADT model. I am sure others can help you some more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 try audit and purge before export go to orbit mode 3d view before export to 3ds sounds like a case of too many polys try intermediating with rhinoceros try polygon reduction tools try to stay in acis nurbs solids/surfaces get more ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Steckler Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks, All. I purged & audit before bringing in to max (hence the 400k file size), Layers are reduced to 43 (I could probably get these down to 30 if pressed), did not do the orbit mode but will try later today), I'm really new at max so for now, ADT modeling is the only option, tried the optimization tool (are there more?) and got the poly count down to 328k. File size is still huge tho' at 119megs vs. less than a half meg in ADT. This does not bode well for my entire scene of some 17 acres of hotel and waterpark. Any more advise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 what is the reason you are stuck with ADT as your modeler? and could you export to a ACIS *.SAT file then open that in Rhino demo and save that as a *.3ds or *.Iges file for opening in max? how big does it open up to in your RAM? how much ram do you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 You may need to find a way to break down your scene into logical parts. I am assuming if you are doing exteriors you have removed interior info. You may need to break it into 1/2 or 1/3s and I really think only you would know the best way to do that by floor or section or layer or what makes sence with the building. Then import these partial plans into max files then xfre these files into 1 large file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Load the AutoCAD file and maybe some of us can take a quick peek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Steckler Posted December 8, 2006 Author Share Posted December 8, 2006 Okay, here is the .dwg or rather a link to it..... http://www.moreplans.com/!WaterPark/HotelModel2.dwg BTW, thanks to your suggestions I've gotten the polys down to about 238,000. Is that a reasonable size for a 7 story hotel exterior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFK_Matrix Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Hi Greg, Well I took your DWG and using File Link Manager imported it to Max and then just saved and its 60meg on my pc so don't know what your doing. Try bringing in each floor and then saving them down in max and then merging/xrefing them all together this could help. I would think all those railings arn't helping. Make up one lot of railings in Max and then copy them round but make them Instances should cut down on polys etc. And seeing as this is a very basic structure, ie no curves or complicated walls etc. I would really look into modelling it all in Max. Honestly its not as hard as it sounds. Basically u setup your plans and elevations in ADT. Then in Max you insert some GRIDs these are on the create panel under Helpers. Using them you trace round your building using lines include the window holes. Then attach all the lines together and extrude them and voila u have a wall. The other method is to trace round your plan and extrude this up and then cut the windows. It really is worth looking into but if you have a time consideration then do the xref/merge method. EDIT - What are your File Link Manager settings out of interest, maybe this is the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade911 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 yep.. 66 mb for me too.. jus directly imported it n saved. i used max 8. so maybe its somethin abt 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFK_Matrix Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Maybe Kripal as I am on Max 7 so it could be something Max 9 is doing. Be good if someone with Max 9 could do the same thing we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Steckler Posted December 8, 2006 Author Share Posted December 8, 2006 I made the railings less of a mosnter (and updated the linked file although it was done in ADT2006 this time) and brought into Max9 via the File Link Manager (not just a straight "import") and my max 9 file size is 102 megs without any optimization. So its getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Johnson Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Sorry mate about the import problems. I know the QA guy who is in charge testing the Autodesk interoperability stuff with 3dsmax (He sits about 10 feet away from me), and I know he'd be interested in your file. Can you share it with us? Send me a private message and we can get in touch. Thanks. Chris Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Johnson Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Thanks, I have forwarded your file. Chris J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 after looking at the model i say it is the handrails that make it so 'expensive' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFK_Matrix Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hi, Don't know if this will help mate but have attached the File Link Settings I use in Max for you. Will also post this in the other thread you have going. EDIT: on the Advanced tab all i select is Layers, Blocks as Node Heirarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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