DIP my WIP

[salty_dogs]

i've never posted any of my work here, prolly because i'm not a render boy ( i don't render all day long. infact, i go months between cg projects ) but i am an architect. this might not be the forum to pose this question - but are there other architects out there that use cg as part of their design methodology? i'm 'sketching' my newest commission in rhino, going back and forth between trace / model / straightedge, etc.

 

for those of you who are wondering, i'm modeling in rhino and the stills are lifted from sketchup, (composite in pshop.) i'm just gettin my feet wet in sketchup; push/pull surfaces (cool) , interactive cutting sections !awesome! and fast light studies for fenestration/projections (way cool.) im gonna buy it. maybe we should have a DIP; design.in.progress. forum. not really looking for a crit, but comments welcome.

 

[Ernest Burden III]

i'm not a render boy...but i am an architect.

The site is called CG Architect, so you are well represented. Many renderers are (former) architects. That may be less true now, but a lot of my renderer collegues here in the New York area are licenced architects.

 

Not me--I'm a render boy.

[Crazy Homeless Guy]

Originally posted by salty_dogs:

i've never posted any of my work here, prolly because i'm not a render boy ( i don't render all day long. infact, i go months between cg projects ) but i am an architect.

nothing like insulting the forum you are posting in.

[CHE]

"render boy"?....I guess I should go back to my desk, I have a lot of render button-pressing to do....LOL

[salty_dogs]

sorry, that wasn't meant to be derogatory. i have the utmost respect for what everyone here does. in fact, i would consider moving my career in that direction cuz it really beats cd's and shopdrawing reviews. you guys/gals give vision to the vision.

 

my esteemed elder draftsmen also ask if the 'design project' button could be used more often, i tell them to get the 9h out of there arse. anyone else dip'n?

[Fernando Lino]

Hi!

I am an architect and I also use cg stuff.

when I have meetings with clients it is easy to sell the project or the idea with renderings ...specially when they don't understand the floor plans (wives) .

[Ricardo Eloy]

And here go my 2 cents, if you guys don't mind...

 

I think the issue nowadays is how architects use CG in their work. Take me, for example. I always desing and create everything in 3D, first with basic volumes, then I jump to the real fun. It's not like all my clients get to see the CG I make, but it sure helps me a lot.

Maybe this separation between CG and creation shouldn't exist. Maybe we all should realize that CG is not only for presentations, but it's a great creative tool as well. I had some clients (as a "render boy" ) who had no idea AT ALL what their design would look like. As a CG architect ( ), I think we have an advantage: we see the design tridimensionally, no matter the documentation we are provided. We see things that "ordinary" architects don't see (ok, you can shoot me!).

That's how I see it...

BTW, shouldn't we move this thread to another place? It's getting way far from the original deal...

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Rick

[Tango]

I am 100% with Rick! I think that we are not "special" people, we are simply trained to see things in 3D far more easy than traditional 2D pros. This means nothing about the skills of one or other professionals, I am not questioning abilities here. Putting it straight...CG people tends to "see" with that special 3D eye that not all out there is used to work with.

[salty_dogs]

PROCESS... this is really what is exciting to me. my client will never see the 'renders' above because they're not focused enough discuss with most laypeople. i mean, my client isn't a designer/architect; sure they could 'see' what i'm doing, but these are just screen shots of half ideas, not composed and certainly not complete. its fuzzy. and its fun.

 

some of the work posted on this site is phenomenal and it takes real dedication, skill and artistry to get it to that level. the photoreal/npr stuff is inspiring (as it should be) and has tempted me to have a go at it (later.) i think the original post should have gone elsewhere, but i was interested to know if other members were 'working' their design in the early stages with the help of a digital process.

[bigcahunak]

Hi

Another practicing architect doing CG, not enough though.

1 remark about architects doing CG if you guys don't mind...

There are 2 ways I do CG work:

 

1. Just like any "render boy" - have a client (doesn't have to be my design) who wants the render and he/she pays for it.

 

2. If its my client, and I want to convince for an idea, I would only go as far as a partial wireframe image. No matterials or lights or anything else is involved.

I believe that no service should be given for free. If he/she wants a render they need to ask for one, and have it in a different contract. Clients tend to feel that if I already made the model, they could ask for changes, and now that they "understand" the design better they could easily know what they want to change and to see how it looks after the change is done.

Its all nice and good, but clients need to pay for it, and its our job to make them get used to it, and not just because its our interest to have the design the way it is.

Its the clients interest to have us, the architects, with our interests - thats why they hired us in the first place.

 

Yes, Sketchup is nice. This is exactly the tool for architects to easily draw something up and show the client within minutes.

Just my thought on the matter...