Danny2005 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hello Recently I was contacted by a Architectural Visualization firm that was interested in buy a model I made. To be perfectly honest I have no idea on how to price the model. I do know that I put a lot of time into it but I also used it as a learning project so ... what is the going rate for architectural models? From a quick search I see models in what I would consider the same level of detail going for $200 - 600. I also know that large consulting firms contract out and sometimes get 20,000 for a 3D model. I dont want to price myself out and potentially loss future work, nor do I want to give it away. Any ideas or suggestions? D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Think about how long it would take an experienced person to re-create your model. I figure I could do it in 4-6 hrs - 10 if something goes badly Then multiply that by what you figure their hourly rate is...maybe $100/hr? $500-1000 seems reasonable to me. Keep in mind they will be expecting that model to properly and efficiently modelled and appropriatly layered/named. They'll want this model to save them work, not create new headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manta Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Any idea why they would want to buy a model that you've already made, I mean what are they going to use it for I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny2005 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 Hey Steve,.. thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Layers etc are all in good shape,.. I make an effort to keep everything tidy. Clean modelling all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny2005 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 Manta,.. apparently a client had approached them and requested a particular house designed by Richard Meier. Happens to be one of those I modelled. Instead of them modelling it, they contacted me. Do you have any experience selling your models Manta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsf Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Find out if the person who wants to buy it from you plans on selling it many times. You may want a precentage of (gross) sales which may add up to more than taking a onetime fixed fee. Reminds me of stories of songwriters in the old days who sold their songs for pennies only to see record companies get rich. Obivously were not talking about huge sums with a 3d model, but you may want to consider putting it up on an exchange site yourself. If you sell it to the person who has expressed interest in it now, you could have them agree not to resell it all or have them pay you a percentage if they do. Good luck. That is a nice looking model you have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny2005 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Hey JSF,.. thanks for the tip. I will ask a few more questions regarding the use of my model. I am very appreciative of people suggestions, guidance and support. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Keep us posted, I'm curious how you handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny2005 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Share Posted February 19, 2007 Hey Steve,... great to hear back from you. I appreciate your interest. I sent my proposal on Saturday and received a response today. I detailed the hours worked (10 as you suggested) and a rate of $75 per hour. Their response was that this price was a little higher than they were expecting,... but it seems they really need the model. I suggested $750,.. they came back to me with an offer of $650. Beyond this, I would like to put myself into a position where they may want to come back to me again. My feeling is that for a first sale,... I would be ok with $650. Sounds like they are genuine in their interest, so now its a matter of sorting out the payment and transfer of the file. I was asked which formats I could provide... suggested the standards (.3ds & .max) Any guidance as for this last step? Anything I should be aware of? Am I forgetting something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 First try to find out what format they want/need and make sure you supply that. Additionally give them a few extra formats "just in case". 3DS and MAX as you stated are important, but remember only 3DMax can read MAX files and it sounds, to me, that they don't have high-end software. I would absolutely include DXF as well - maybe DWG. Other formats that are very common include FBX and OBJ. Also include some disclaimer with the sale that the modle is sold "as is", that the greatest care has been taken in the construction of the model, it is expected to be free from defect, and any alterations they desire are at your standard shop rate $75/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny2005 Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hey Steve,.. do you know where I might find a standard contract for such work? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Sorry, I don't. I've always written most of my own contract language. Keep it simple and to the point. Be explicit in what you are and are not providing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 There's a sample Professional Services Agreement in the Visualization Insider - not the same exactly but a good reference point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artcotto Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 check this out!! http://www.asai.org/FeeSurvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny2005 Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Thanks Artcotto & AJLynn,... those links look like exactly what I was looking for! I looked that the Fee Survey (American Society of Arch. Illustrators),.. found it very interesting. I did a quick search to see if i could find something similar for Europe,.. so as to get a realistic idea of fee's As always everyones help and guidance is appreciated!!! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DM Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I would also add a clause in your agreement that they have a license to use the model for their own purposes, but that they do not have the right to lend, hire, re-sell or distribute it. Check out the terms on other 3D model sites for the general drift. Cheers, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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