vizwhiz Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 how about Lets do a CGA collaborative way cool wild-idea project? something somewhat along The excellence of The way cool advertisement http://seewhatyoumean.3ds.com/ Dassault Systemes but Lets Think up something original and figure out what & how we would like To do This i am only an instigator, others will have better ideas obviously, something architectural, with using some way cool current 3d Techniques maybe a suggestion i could Throw out at This point would be, That we 1. figure out The concept 2. get it modeled in 3d etc 3. Then maybe split The project (physically?) into smaller segments 4. so That different Teams or individuals could work with different softwares 5. To do small portions of animations, This allows virtual multi-Tasking 6. put This Together in an appropriate format 7. so That we can all look at it 8. repeat #7 probably in The long run This will (definately should) be an animation why not, ok who has some ideas? you can be as wild as practically usable we can do whatever we can imagine There may already be some suggestions in a previous Thread http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/22367-did-anyone-see-3d-adv-way-cool.html Thanks Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I would like us to integrate live footage. Possibly use some famous footage, rather than shoot our own. Using a clip from a movie that has a particularly strong architectural setting. Or maybe even spoof something. Like a famous card game scene (latest bond flick) and put our own models/action on the table. Even add sound, like theyre discussing the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Technically speaking I know we all use different platforms and different software’s, is it going to be difficult to maintain the same quality from scene to scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I like the idea of live footage however I would hate to have this become a testing ground for freedom of usage issues. So if that seems like it will be an issue of using footage it shouldnt even be pursued IMHO. But parodies are fun. I could imagine a set up like the Dassault Systemes architecture meeting but for the Death Star and all of the architects arguing about codes and building restictions and all of the lovely crap we could all draw on from our daily lives. Vadar arguing with the H board... How do things like this WORK? I mean I have work collaboratly with talented people on "fun" projects before and often the fizzle because no one is able to make a decision and the ideas splinter quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think a varied stance on style and methodology needs to be central to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 i really hadnt considered live footage, but That is what The original had intertwined with The cg elements if live footage is To be considered Then maybe by The Time SIGGRAPH or a VizMasters event rolls around we could Take live footage of CGA'ers at These events Then we wouldnt have To worry about The content royalty copyright unless some peoples just wanted To Take footage of Themselves and incorporate it into Their presentations ** how does This all work? i guess That is part of our process To figure This part out lets see what Ideas show up give The discussion maybe a week or Two Then Try To figure out some workflow or a sense of direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I would rather use some pro footage than home cam. But dont let me be a wet blanket, if anyone fancies themselves as a camera-man, or knows a camera-man, or even just owns a top-of-the-range digi-cam, then rocknroll. Legal issues shouldnt be a problem, were not making money or distributing this thing right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Legal issues shouldnt be a problem, were not making money or distributing this thing right? There's still an issue. LucasFilms has closed StarWars fan sites just because they could. A good place to start for film ideas would be: http://www.archive.org/details/movies much of what's there is public domain. Modeling could be done by many so long as a base 'world' was established with a set 0,0,0 and units (meters, or mm would be best). Files could be transfered by 3DS or FBX, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Agreed Esrnest. I really think that having different styles to the rendered output is important for the 'virtual ethics' of the project. Almost like an equal opportunities theme for render styles. Otherwise it will be an extension of one persons style and restrict the experimental nature of the project. (did that sound like bollocks? yes, i think that sounded like bollocks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 (did that sound like bollocks? yes, i think that sounded like bollocks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Is that your suggestion for the title? Or maybe the title track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 well speaking of suggestive Title Tracks? Then what is our "Theme' song for This collaborative endeavor? what are some Ideas ????? i just saw 300 over The weekend with my 12 year old son now he wants To join The Marines, oops, undo, undo, reverse what is The focus? The BLDGs Themselves or The interaction? 300 evidently from what i have read was shot in front of 'green screens' and Then photo-comped with The background added later after all of That just asking questions, Trying To bounce some ideas if we want To go modular (per software) or bldg Type Then a real basic grid could accomodate a variety of Bldg Types does anybody want To contribute some 'matte painting' Techniques To all of This, who does That kind of stuff here? at CGA? maybe we could develop a List of categorys for This project and people could sign up under whatever They would like To work on just some another Ideas Thanks Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 maybe we should get some ideas for the endeavour first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 One of the things that I thought would be really intersting to use this type of technology for is archeological recreations. I just watched a special on PBS about the Incas and it seems like it would be an intersting project to recreate a civilisation. To research buildings and the agriculture, the pottery, jewelry, religion on and on. I could be as a large project as would be desired but I imagine it could be something that would be easy for people to work collaboratively or independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Along those lines I thought it could be cool to show the "evolution" of a building or a city based on past and present architectural styles. The way I see it is the building or buildings would morph over time from one style to another ending in something current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 ending in something current. Current to the 22nd century maybe? I love archaeological work, but I also like drawing buildings that might exist. That way they are made with my style, not a style that once existed. Both are good. You could have a future city where the past is respected and lovingly revealed, researched and restored. The past-to-present evolution of a place, vast canvas treatment was done better that any of us probably ever could by last year's winner of the 3D Award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 how about CGaudi?? or CG-Gaudi?? anybody remember Antonio Gaudi? my ultimate hero maybe we could do a futuristic or a just plain wild-@$$ non-buildable (fantasy?) city ???? just something To consider we could have some fun doing our own arch designs (for once) and no one will know The difference ** with as much Talent That There is here at CGA and with as many Ideas That people may come up with There is no reason That we could not have a Multiple of projects That could be whatever someone wanted To do, just make an idea ask if someone else wants To join and create something No Rules, Just Right, just do It. **** ok someone just mentioned Wiki or wikipedia maybe we should start our own wikipedia entry Wikid CGarchitect.com (undefined) ongoing (whatever) architectural (????) wikid cool, That could be a possible Motto for This (????) i am not awake just yet, still sleep Talking Randy omg, omfng Its raining big Time in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterealkey Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I like this thread, I like team work Guys I have a MIDI/Recording studio at home where I write psychedelic trance music in my "free time" So I can whip up a soundtrack for us And I can also help with the modelling of course. Animation is not my strong point though, anything more than a moving camera confuses the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterealkey Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I like this thread, I like team work Guys I have a MIDI/Recording studio at home where I write psychedelic trance music in my "free time" So I can whip up a soundtrack for us And I can also help with the modelling of course. Animation is not my strong point though, anything more than a moving camera confuses the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 every time i see this thread, i keep thinking of Richard Linklater's movie Waking Life. not so much the technology used to produce the style, or how the style was executed, but the way in which the execution of the style was done. ..they gave each artist a set of rules, but then freedom to develop their own style within that set of rules. when you watch the movie, it just goes from one style to the next to form a cohesive movie. i would say it was successful, but the plot of the movie is not very accessible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waking_Life http://www.wakinglifemovie.com/ Adding to the dream-like effect, the film used an innovative animation technique based on rotoscoping. Animators overlaid live action footage (shot by Linklater) with animation that roughly approximates the images actually filmed. A variety of artists were employed, so the feel of the movie continually changes. The result is a surreal, shifting dreamscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Waking Life. not so much the technology used to produce the style, or how the style was executed I HATE that style, it makes me want to scream every time those stock broker ads come on. AHHHHHH! Yet I still want to see A Scanner Darkly. I'm conflicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I gotta agree with hating that style. Nyway, I dont think it would work too good for architecture. Stylisticly, I think we're best sticking with what we know. The variety in the critique forums is plenty to work with isnt it? I dont think we want to either re-invent the wheel or rip off something we dont usually use imho.... I think we should start at home and walk as far as we can in any direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I like the idea of having a little different style for each segment, the only problem with that as I see it is some styles may communicate better than others. We would have to get samples of each persons work to determine where those styles would work best in each part of the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i didn't mean to suggest that it would be that style, i mentioned it to give an example of a project that was done where several different people authored their own segment, and then the segments were assembled into one piece. this way everyone involved maintains a sense of ownership/authorship, and won't become bogged down executing someone else's ideas. it may work to keep peoples aspirations and drive at full go. I HATE that style, it makes me want to scream every time those stock broker ads come on. AHHHHHH! Yet I still want to see A Scanner Darkly. I'm conflicted. i recommend A Scanner Darkly. the plot was a lot easier to follow than A Waking Life. i would see it again. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 bump, bump & bump hey for any of The non-25 qualifiers maybe we could continue This Thread and see what happens ** sort by: any combination of The following bldg Type softwares artistic style ** just an Idea Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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