Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=9396598&linkID=9241178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Eloy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I thought they were not going to release a SP, since Max 10 is almost being launched... welcome fix, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 I thought they were not going to release a SP, since Max 10 is almost being launched... welcome fix, anyway! what you talkin' 'bout Willis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I would have thought Max10 would release late summer or early autumn as usual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Is this the productivity pack they have been sprouting about. Just read the readme and it doesnt say too much Glad they fixed the split scanline stiching JHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Eloy Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 what you talkin' 'bout Willis? LOL... I meant I thought we were actually closer to Max 10 than to a SP. The first of the 3 SPs for Max 8 was released pratically a couple months after the original, so I figured they were going to release a subscription pack (like 7.5), which would give us a taste of Max 10 instead of a SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I was under the impression that the wernt doing point relseases anymore, only hotfixes and sp's. I was expecting the productivity pack to include any SP's. as there are already 2 hotfixes available. Anyway downlaoded it and wil install later today. crazy homeless guy - has this fixed you FLM problems? JHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 yes, what The hell is up with The fn FLM? anyways?? losing Material Assignments constantly aint much Fun more Than just interested in This Too Thanks Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 the service pack didn't seem to help the FileLink problem. on the Autodesk board i was told that FileLink will only work properly if the file was linked properly to begin with, whatever that means. i was in a bad mood when i posted there. http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=534608 _________ i don't believe the service pack and the productivity booster are the same thing. the productivity booster will only be available on subscription. i think it is supposed to be out sometime this spring. according to autodesk, it has enhanced dwg options, so i am hoping it solves my problem, but there is no guarantee. who knows if this will actually help.... http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=9093251 Enhancements to File Link and DWG Import AutoCAD 2008 and Revit 2008 users can import projects into 3ds Max 9 Extension: Productivity Booster using the DWG format. This format encapsulates information about geometry, material, lighting, rendering properties, and cameras, streamlining project data exchange across multiple applications. This extension includes enhancements to DWG import performance, reliability, and ease of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Ah thought so, Yes if your FL settings were wrong to start with the only way to fix them is to unlink, correct the settings and then relink. On the whole FLM has been very stable, and I have been flogging it alot. Things I would like the FLM to do such as being able to turn files on and off (just like xRef's in Acad), and the ability to copy one linked file as an instance, think modeling one level of a tower and then instancing it up for the rest. Anyway, I'm just about to install and I get back to you. Just read that the productivity pack is available on subscription, just have to wait of IT to get back from Friday Long Lunch JHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizwhiz Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 i am on subscription (or is it prescription?) for autocad 2008 and max10 i was Told That autocad 2008 is already shipping and i keep checking my mail daily (i still got mail i havent opened from 2 years ago, mostly bills) max10 should be out in October just before Autodesk has its anal AU Thingy Autodesk University, usually in Lost Wages, NV otherwise known as Los Vegas what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas i just hope This FLM problem gets fixed, sooner Than later it used To bug out in VIZ4 eventually, it always messed up VIZ5 worked just fine, but i guess They couldnt leave it alone holding my breath,. hoping That This next Time around it starts working again ** so if you FLM and it isnt working how The hell do you know what The correct settings are if what you have always used for past years is now not working? randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 so if you FLM and it isnt working how The hell do you know what The correct settings are if what you have always used for past years is now not working? ...exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I have sent you the settings that have been working for me since Max8 SP1 in other posts Something tells me that it isn't the FLM but rather the DWG files and how they are produced. Can you post a sample DWG file and Max file, I'll have a look at it JHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 I have sent you the settings that have been working for me since Max8 SP1 in other posts Something tells me that it isn't the FLM but rather the DWG files and how they are produced. Can you post a sample DWG file and Max file, I'll have a look at it JHV justin, i am attaching a screen shot of how i have my settings right now. when working in the previous 2 versions of Max, my FileLink worked fine with all box's unchecked. it reloaded, and the materials updated. now, as i understand it, i need to have "use scene material assignments on reload" checked in order for the file to update properly. the problem is, i didn't have this checked when i initially setup files in version 7/8, because they reloaded without a problem. now Max 9 requires that box to be checked from the start, and if it wasn't, then FileLink will not work. changing the setting after the file is loaded does not work. also, i used to be able to change the FileLink to point at a different DWG than the one it was originally linked to. this does not work either. as far as i can tell, i need to always point at the original DWG created. i like being able to change which DWG was linked, without being able to re-link it. ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I have been having problems with the FLM as well, just not the same problems. My biggest issue is sometimes when re-linking, the whole model basically explodes all over the place, and then crashes Max. The only way Iv'e been able to fix this problem is to relink 1 or 2 layers at a time. One other issue I had was using anything other than "layer, blocks as node heirarchy" ( I think that's the one). If I tried any othr option, things went to hell. I've always used the scene definitions options only because I discovered the hard way what happened when I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 crazy homeless guy - Ah so user error and not FLM error (I not having a go ) From my dealings with AME to sort this issue out in Max8 these were the recomended settings and have worked ever since SP1. It is a pain that you have no other choice other than relinking from scratch. The second problem sort of makes sence to me, Max cannot always understand that Object "A" in one file is the same as object "A" in an other file. Even though it is possible to swap out files, i would recomend it. This even happen is you isolate or hide layers in ACAD, and reloaded, sure the objects dissapear, but when they are unhidden in ACAD and reloaded in Max the materials will be lost. Max thinks they are new objects. Chad Warner - how far from origin is the model? and are you units appropriate to the scale of the scene? Ie if the model is KM long and the units are set to mm there may be issues, and vis versa. JHV Downloaded the productivity pack and installing it this morning JHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Models are always have a corner on the origin, and always working in feet and inches. The problem isn't persistent, it happens at random times with random models. Which I guess is my issue with the FLM--it never seems to have been completely stable for me. I also downloaded the productivity pack, but have not had a chance to install yet. Probably tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 crazy homeless guy - Ah so user error and not FLM error (I not having a go ) From my dealings with AME to sort this issue out in Max8 these were the recomended settings and have worked ever since SP1. It is a pain that you have no other choice other than relinking from scratch. The second problem sort of makes sence to me, Max cannot always understand that Object "A" in one file is the same as object "A" in an other file. Even though it is possible to swap out files, i would recomend it. This even happen is you isolate or hide layers in ACAD, and reloaded, sure the objects dissapear, but when they are unhidden in ACAD and reloaded in Max the materials will be lost. Max thinks they are new objects. yes, in hindsight, it was a user error that is causing the problem, but FileLink worked the same through the first 2 releases (it was originally a extension drop for v7.5). by default, the file linking used the scene materials on reload. the code was changed that so by default,the file uses new materials by default. basically, that renders all of my previous projects useless in version 9 without resetting all of the textures. so ya, i am bitter. the thing that annoys me is that i can not tell it to use the scene materials now. it doesn't work that way. if i understand what the autodesk site is saying.. there is no way to change the way a file is linked, once it is linked. even though the options are there. i am hoping with the extension drop, and the robustness that they are adding to it, that you will be able to tell it to use scene definitions on old files, and it will actually work. the other problem i am having with filelink is that you can no longer change which file is linked. this also used to work fine, but no does not. so maybe i am being irrational on the first part, but filelinking has always been far from perfect, ...and is now throwing a wrench on the finely tuned work flow that i have used for the past couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Hunt Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I hear your pain, although I don't think the SP/ prroductivity pack is going to solve the problem. From what I can work out the only change to FLM is the ability to link 2008dwg's and some enhancments to dwgs from Revit. JHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I found another benefit to subscription service - apparently because my company subscribes, we're allowed to install the software on our home PCs without an additional license. I never realized that before. I've emailed my rep to find out exactly how this one works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacelord Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I found another benefit to subscription service - apparently because my company subscribes, we're allowed to install the software on our home PCs without an additional license. I never realized that before. I've emailed my rep to find out exactly how this one works. Thats a pretty cool, something I never knew, I remember the guys years ago would take home the at night dongle. I here the Mental Ray interpolation/glossie red green dot problem is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 ...by the way, apparently the productivity pack has been released. when i log into my subscription, i can't seem to download it. we are trying to figure out the problem, but people on the chaos forum are using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I was able to download it. Although it screwed up all my default settings, so make sure you copy your UI folder and whatever else you have custom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Warner Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Alright, Now I'm having issues, even with the service pack and productivity pack. I've linked my file correctly from the beginning, but now as soon as I relink the max file to a new dwg (which is the exact same drawing, just a new revision number) all of my modifiers and materials go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Alright, Now I'm having issues, even with the service pack and productivity pack. I've linked my file correctly from the beginning, but now as soon as I relink the max file to a new dwg (which is the exact same drawing, just a new revision number) all of my modifiers and materials go away. do you think the productivity pack offers any benefits? ..obviously the not link re-linking properly is a negative. ...are there positives also? i think autodesk includes the extensions in their next release of max, so this is going to be an issue either when 10 comes out, or now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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