mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 hello guys, I want buy new system with below info. I will order it today so please guide me about now. MB: Intel ????? - dual processor CPU: Intel Xeone 3.2 4mb cash RAM: Creative 2 gb (don't know model of) HARD: western 250 gb (don't know model of) CASE: ???? VGA: GeForce FX 7950 Leadteck (don't know model of) Please tell me which of these are good and which are not config with other Finalized Hardwares: --------------------- CPU: Intel core2 duo 6400 2.13 VGA: Leadteck Winfast 7600 GT2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 what you think about geforce fx 7600 (leadteck)? 7950 is expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemog Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 At first view, that seem very good, and sufficient... but I'm not an hardware specialist... especially if you considere my old workstation ;-) hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 haha... you know I decide to render my project (schwerin theater) with Maxwell so need some upgrade! there is new config: CPU: Intel 6400 2.13 gb 4mb Cashe VGA: 7600 GT2 giga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Yes, get a Core2 chip and an Asus P5B Deluxe board, a more powerful power supply than you need, a third party heatsink-fan assembly that's made of copper and has tons of fins, and good PC6400 RAM. Then overclock. I've got my 6400 running at 2.84 and it's almost fast enough for Maxwell. Make it a quad-core chip if you can - it won't overclock as well but there will be 4 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Yes, get a Core2 chip and an Asus P5B Deluxe board, a more powerful power supply than you need, a third party heatsink-fan assembly that's made of copper and has tons of fins, and good PC6400 RAM. Then overclock. I've got my 6400 running at 2.84 and it's almost fast enough for Maxwell. Make it a quad-core chip if you can - it won't overclock as well but there will be 4 of them Asus P5B don't support dual processor! I want it support it. PC6400 is ram? I don't know about it. may give more info please? so you say Intel 6400 is great? now what type? I mean "Core2 Quad" or "Core2 duo" ? And about VGA; I have two suggest, one that it's "MSI 7950 256buffer, ram" and two, "Leadteck 7600 GT2". which? thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 ok, I decide to buy "Winfast leadteck 7600 GT2". I wanted buy 8800 but it's expencive now so decide to buy 7600 then after month, sell it and buy 8800. main problem is in MB now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macer Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Do you want dual core (or quad core) or dual processor (sockets)? the P965 supports multiple cores but not multiple sockets. Until this is decided you can't start on the spec for the rest of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Oh, I see. Here's the deal. You can't get dual socket motherboards for any Core2 chip - only for Xeons. Which is expensive. So unless you want to spend the money on dual quad-core Xeons (if you don't want to spend the money on a GeForce 8800 I bet you also don't want to spend the money for dual-quad Xeons) you want a single Core2 Duo or Quad chip, whichever you can afford. Mine is a Core2 Duo E6400, 2.13 overclocked to 2.84. It could go higher if I really wanted it to. I know you can also overclock Core2 Quads, but I don't know how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Oh, I see. Here's the deal. You can't get dual socket motherboards for any Core2 chip - only for Xeons. Which is expensive. So unless you want to spend the money on dual quad-core Xeons (if you don't want to spend the money on a GeForce 8800 I bet you also don't want to spend the money for dual-quad Xeons) you want a single Core2 Duo or Quad chip, whichever you can afford. Mine is a Core2 Duo E6400, 2.13 overclocked to 2.84. It could go higher if I really wanted it to. I know you can also overclock Core2 Quads, but I don't know how much. hey Andrew, you are great advisor, glad that find you oh, I ask the proce of xeone and it's out of my budget but it's great of course, so now I will look for Core2 and will forget dual processor (My current system is dual processor so it will done my renders.) Now, about CPU, as you say and I select, Intel Core2 6400 2.13 is good (price of it is good for me) but I yet don't understand what is different between "core2 DUO" and "Core2 Quad"?! which is better? - Now I will ask price of Asus PSB (In Iran), I find below page about it, and there is two model, which is better? http://www.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=P5B+Deluxe thanks man, as Andrew said, I make mistake about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 OMG! the store, havn't Asus mother boards. Is there better chise for INTEL main boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Back up a minute here. Some new concepts, introduced in the current chip line: -All new Intel chips are either Duo or Quad. Duos are dual-core, e.g. two chips in one packaging. This is NOT the same as Hyperthreading - Hyperthreading is a dumb hack, Duo is a consumer-priced dual CPU system. Quad chips are FOUR cores. -New Intel chip and old Intel chips can not be compared just by looking at the number of MHz/GHz. The new chips are much more efficient. Each 1GHz of each core of a Core2 chip is worth approximately 2GHz of Pentium4. So a 2.13GHz Core2 Duo is as fast as a DUAL 4.2GHz Pentium4 would be, if there were such a thing. The low-end 1.8GHz Core2 Duo is a fast as a high-end 3.6GHz Pentium D used to be. Etc. -A new Xeon (5100 series for Dual, 5300 series for Quad, and then there are some other numbering schemes that are confusing) is a Core2 chip that be used in a dual-socket motherboard. Except for the low-end Xeons that don't support dual socket - they do this to make it more confusing. So - if you want 2 CPUs (2 cores) buy a Core2 Duo. If you want 4 CPUs (4 cores) buy a Core2 Quad or a system with 2 Xeon 5100 series. If you want 8 CPUs (8 cores) buy a system with 2 Xeon 5300 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I think the only real difference in those MB's is that one has wireless hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 great description. I understan as well. many thanks. so now I'm happy about CPU selection. Now, as I asked, what motherboard suggest for it in INTEL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Can you get the Intel "BadAxe"? I forget the number... something like 975DBX but it's also labelled BadAxe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Can you get the Intel "BadAxe"? I forget the number... something like 975DBX but it's also labelled BadAxe. Do you mean "D975XBX or D975XBX2"? I will ask about price tomorrow morning. which is better? I mean if Asus is better I buy it from other place. I can pay amount 200$ for motherboard so please tell me my best selection. I want that mainboard can support cpu quadro too because may I buy it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 The guy in here who was overclocking a BadAxe a while back seems to have been using a D975XBX. The D975XBX2 is listed as supporting Quads, the D975XBX is not, whether or not that means it doesn't work I don't know, and I also don't know how well the D975XBX2 overclocks, so you'll need to do more research on both those points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 Andrew, I found that ASUS and buy it! Final, My system become this: 1. MB: Asus P5B Deluxe 2. CPU: Intel Core2 Due 2.13 (I will buy 2.4 after weeks) 3. VGA: Leadtek 7600 GT (I will buy 880 gtx after weeks) 4. RAM: Griel 677 1GB (2) 5. HDD: Maztor 80 SATA 2 (2) -> Speed ratio 6. MONITOR: LG 1952 S (OR) LG 1970 HR (which is better?) 7. POWER: 600 w so what you think now? I have problem in select better monitor. which is better? may there be better idea? I want it be 19" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 at this time I have two option for monitor: LG L1900 J and LG 1970 HR which you suggest? do you suggest wide screens? I can pay ~450$ for monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 I select L1900R! any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 The system looks good. Don't bother with a 2.4 CPU, just upgrade the CPU cooler and overclock the 2.1. As for monitors - your call. I'll give you one hint: if a widescreen and a regular have the same measurement, the regular is larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 28, 2007 Author Share Posted April 28, 2007 yes, system is great and work nicely. I need your advise about "how overclock it ?" I never do. please tell me what cooler must I buy and how can I overclock it? some one tell me if I do it, may I less my CPU!!! P/S: I have problem in install 3dsmax 9 64bit in new system. It return error that this processor don't support. discussion in this topic: http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/23432-problem-install-3dsmax9-64bit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 For the 3DSMax thing: what Windows version are you using? For the overclocking: that subject has been beaten to death already, you need to search the backlogs here and use Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 30, 2007 Author Share Posted April 30, 2007 For the 3DSMax thing: what Windows version are you using? I think I find problem. the vista is 32bit so I try to install 64bit and try it again. For the overclocking: that subject has been beaten to death already, you need to search the backlogs here and use Google. oh andrew, as i said, I never done overclock and have not information about it, so with seeking cannot understand result are true! also some of those aren't for beginners. so may you give me some link pls (just when be free). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohamad Posted April 30, 2007 Author Share Posted April 30, 2007 about Hard, jusrt wana say that I use two 80gb maxtor SATA2 and use Speed RATIO and result is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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