Horhe Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I decided to make a seperate thread on this topic, after putting it somewhere as a post. From time to time I stumble upon companies that have renders, of scenes that they bought, in their firm portfolio. They dont even bother to change the camer angle, furniture arrangement nor the interior colours. Now is that cheating? Or is it alright? (the bought scene can be legaly added to one's portfolio according to the licensce agreement) I think thats cheating your client. Its not your scene, its not your materials, its not your lighting set up. Its not your portfolio. I would like some feedback from you guys what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Its not really cheating I dont think. However I definately wouldnt be putting any evermotion crap on my companies web folio! Its only going to reflect badly on the company when it turns out they cant reproduce that same quality, its poor practise and will eventually catch up with them when someone points it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarboy Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Dont know if cheating is the right word, but its definitely not right, and like Nicnic said, it will come back to bite them when they get hired for a job and cant produce the same style/quality as what they have shown. I ve alos seen and heard of people outting work in their folio that theyve only worked on in part, modeled 1 table for the scene or help light it, but didnt do the rest and then when it comes time to do the whole job by themselves, they fall flat and cant live up to what theyve said. Personally i dont mind the reverse, if a person has done the majority of the work, and some parts of the furniture or lighting or another part was done by another, as long as they make it clear that that part is not their work and show/explain what level they are at in regards to the lighting, modeling, texturing that was done for them. For me, alot of my furntiure models are library parts ive bought from places because my organic modeling skills arent great, and i make sure thats known so that others dont mistake that for my work and expect more of me then im capable of. But as for lighting, textures, strucural modeling, etc. the majority of what i show is my work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvlive Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Well it's either they have totally zero experience or all of their past work have some kind of "dont post" agreement. At the end of the day it will all show in their final product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahorela Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 it's obviously legal but in my opinion it is morally end ethically 'cheating'. Models are one thing......based on architectural plans or furniture plans, my models will come out looking the same as someone elses but texture, lighting and composition should not be bought. It defeats the purpose of having a portfolio in the first place and is 'cheating' the client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horhe Posted June 12, 2007 Author Share Posted June 12, 2007 it's obviously legal but in my opinion it is morally end ethically 'cheating'. Models are one thing......based on architectural plans or furniture plans, my models will come out looking the same as someone elses but texture, lighting and composition should not be bought. It defeats the purpose of having a portfolio in the first place and is 'cheating' the client. Yep Mahorela im with you. That was what i meant when i was speaking about cheating. The client sees ones portfolio, and all in all its not truly theirs! I really get pissed off when i see these kind of images on some webfolios. But theres more! In the info section about the firm they go on explaining how great they are, and how important a client is to them. Thats just great... Hehe...Nic Nic... how did you know i was mainly speaking about evermotions cds for sale? What are the odds, seriously... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat@MDI-Digital Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 i would say it is cheeting....but what do you expect, people want to make money, if they can get hold of a kick ass evermotion scene and render it up and call it there own then they will. I for one would not do somthing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I think I would be more than a little embarassed if I had to rely on ready-made scenes to build a portfolio, but then I have come across a few shameless characters in my time. Talent sometimes lags way behind ambition. The problems they will have are twofold: 1. As soon as another company starts to do it then clients will inevitably spot that someone is copying someone else and the illusion crumbles...along with their reputation. 2. The client will spot that his project looks crappy or different in comparision and there goes the reputation again. JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mann Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 However I definately wouldnt be putting any evermotion crap on my companies web folio! Bit harsh, I like a lot of the evermotion stuff, its proved useful for me on few occasions now. JM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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