quizzy Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 anyone know how this region net render works in viz4? in terms of calculating radiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepSOFD Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 I think the host does all the radiosity calc. and then farms out all the scanline stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted August 8, 2002 Author Share Posted August 8, 2002 I really need to know for sure, I think that MAX 5 handles it the same as viz4... so... And since we are buying max5 and a new system (or 2 lighter ones) i really need to know if I need a heavy-duty-host, like a dual-xeon... (dont bother me with AMD i'll stick to intel) or i can use two systems. (rendering on both or rendering on one and working on the other) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 radiosity processing doesn't even support dual cpu's, so its far away from distributed calculation... max5 doesn't have the VIZ4 region net render funcion included... probably it was not reliable enough, since it was not more than a region-render-script-hack... there are quite a few cool VIZ4 things max5 doesn't have, like perspective correction, create camera from view etc. however, all thins things are maxscripts which can also be used with max 5... i don't own viz4, i'd have to copy the scripts from the other office, not sure if its legal to use them with max5 though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 however, all thins things are maxscripts which can also be used with max 5... i don't own viz4, i'd have to copy the scripts from the other office, not sure if its legal to use them with max5 though... There was a post about this on the MAX board a while back and the official reponse was that unless you owned both you could not leaglly copy DLLs or scripts across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeDaCoM Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 hi quizzy, I think max 5 has net region render. and the radiosity is calculated by each of the computers in the network if solution isn't calculated before sending to the network. if you are doing a brute force GI you can use network rendering also. you should chekc this before getting that xeons... Tom's Hardware http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/0203131/ Athlon MP vs Xeon Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.html?i=1606&p=2 Athlon MP vs Xeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plastic Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 >>I think max 5 has net region render. no >>and the radiosity is calculated by each of the computers in the network no also note that radiosity calculating doesn't support dual cpu's. (no advantage to a single system right now) [ August 12, 2002, 05:32 AM: Message edited by: Marc Lorenz ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeDaCoM Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 ok. maybe the original script for max 3 works http://www.origamy.com.br/english/tools.html but I get 100% both cpu usage when calculating radiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 Hey hedacom, I'm not going to buy AMD, I want to go for working speed (ie. graphic speed) instead of rendering speed, with a good region/blowup net render function, rendering is no problem for me since I have allmost 30 computers at my disposal for rendering... hmmm... this is maybe a question for the discreet dudes.... or i'll have to wait for our system manager to return from vacation, and buy 3ds max 5... i think i'll do the latter... anyway, thnx for the info quizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Originally posted by quizzy: I'm not going to buy AMD, I want to go for working speed (ie. graphic speed) instead of rendering speed...HUH? Maybe I misunderstodd this, but how is an Intel Faster than an AMD at graphics? Isn't this a function of the video card you are using and not the CPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted August 12, 2002 Author Share Posted August 12, 2002 hey jeff, Intel is still much faster if you use opengl (which i use) than an AMD, because of some agreements Intel made with openGL and microsoft. But ofcourse its the graphic card also.. In my opinion its more safe to buy Intel than AMD because Intel is still the biggest manufacturer of chips, so third party software and hardware manufacturers are more likely to work and share their knowledge with Intel.. quizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abicalho Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Originally posted by Marc Lorenz: radiosity processing doesn't even support dual cpu's, so its far away from distributed calculation... max5 doesn't have the VIZ4 region net render funcion included... probably it was not reliable enough, since it was not more than a region-render-script-hack... Sorry to have to correct you, but the algorythm implemented in VIZ 4 and MAX 5 supports multithreading. It does not support distribution over a network, though. Also, Region Net Render ships in MAX 5 as a sample Script. You can locate it in the 2nd CD, under Scripts. Alexander | discreet Quality Engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abicalho Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Originally posted by HeDaCoM: ok. maybe the original script for max 3 works http://www.origamy.com.br/english/tools.html This script will not work in VIZ 4 or MAX 5. Each ships with a version that works, and is NOT a hack anymore. It's a full featured script that handles the distribution pretty well. Alexander | discreet QE Author of the script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Paske Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Yeah.....I always get both my cpu's churning when I'm running a radiosity solution. Hmmmm. Region Net rendering - each of the machines you send a job to has to calculate radiosity for the entire scene if the solution wasn't done before it was sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizzy Posted December 24, 2002 Author Share Posted December 24, 2002 but i'll guess that you have to set the solution quality very high in order to not get any difference between the seperate parts being rendered right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abicalho Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 If you process one solution at each computer, quality will have to be pretty high. You should really process before you submit them to render. Alexander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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