rotten42 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes...this is the crazy situation I've gotten myself into. I had a call from a Contract Furniture Manufacturer that has been a longtime client. They said that they wanted some workstations rendered but that there was quite a few of them and a tight timeline. I just about fell off my chair when they said 108 renders! I thought that if I was to do this job, I should make it worth my while so I put in a significant quote thinking that they probably wouldn't accpet it because the price was too high......I was wrong. I got an email last night saying I would start getting the info today. I have both my workstations ready plus my laptop. I'm stocking up on coffee and cold effects because I only do this work at night and on weekends. Sleep is going to be hard to come by. 108 renders in 21 days!...I must be nuts....or greedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayrona Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Please edit your thread.... 108 Renders in 21 nights.... good look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I have both my workstations ready plus my laptop. I'm stocking up on coffee and cold effects because I only do this work at night and on weekends. Sleep is going to be hard to come by. 108 renders in 21 days!...I must be nuts....or greedy! Nuts. Hire a freelancer or two to help you out. Post a note in a forum where people who use your modeling software would see it. Also--you say you can only work nights? Sounds like you have a day job. Don't quit the day job, but do take some personal days. Plan all steps in advance in writing on a calendar. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Wow, Ron, I think you might have bitten off more than you can chew. Just doing the math..let's assume you get home by 6pm and work until 1am every day and work 18 hours a day on both Sat and Sun. Weekends: 108 hours (over 21 days, assuming three full weekends) Weeknights: 105 hours (over 21 days, assuming 15 weeknights) 213 hours/108 renders = approx 2 hours per render. I know that furniture renders are usually a lot less complicated than say a traditional interior/exterior, but even after 3000+ renders I did at SMED, I don't think we usually ever completed them in less than 4 hours with all of the modeling (even with blocks). If you need help, let me know and I can hook you up with a friend of mine. He's doing a lot of contract furniture work, so he might be able to help you out if you get into a bind. Might want to check on his availablity now though and/or start looking for Plan B should the need arrise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Wow. So how do you tackle a project like that? One day for a stage setup and materials palette then spend the remaining time knocking off models and batch the renders while you're at work or (hopefully) asleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotten42 Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Thank Jeff, I have Ryan waiting in the wings if I need him. I think I'll still be able to do this. 8 typicals in product A 8 typicals in product B 9 finish options for each of them They are sending me the cad drawings. I've worked with the products before so I might already have most of the components cleaned up already. If not they are single stations so there won't be that many components. Most components will be repeated in the other typicals. I still work in Lightscape so I can just over write the new blocks with blocks I've already fixed and texture mapped. All the images will be on a white background with little or no accessories so once I have each finish option worked out I'll just import the material file. The lighting solutions will be the same for all the typicals so I'll jsut keep using the same room environment each time. I only have to produce one image per typical. I figure it will start off slow and gain momentum as I go along. I'll have three computers running on these so I can stagger the work. I won't be easy but I'm up for the challenge. I'll probably take some time off from the fulll time gig to do some of these. It's worth the 3 weeks of no sleep because the quote works out to a rate of more than $1300 a day!!. I can sleep next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Thank Jeff, Ryan was going to be one of my reccomendations. Glad he's looped in. That's good to hear that they are not all 100% unique and mostly just iterations. That will help a lot. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 This may be a bit of a goose chase suggestion, so excuse me if it doesn't help. If I were to tackle something like this with a design to be rendered with multiple finishes, I would animate the materials and render out stills. I would create a single animation for each design in which the materials switch off for each frame. Each animation would output the nine separate finish options. Cinema can do this quite easily. I assume that Max is your app of choice and this can be accomplished. No matter how you tackle this, good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 This may be a bit of a goose chase suggestion, so excuse me if it doesn't help. If I were to tackle something like this with a design to be rendered with multiple finishes, I would animate the materials and render out stills. I would create a single animation for each design in which the materials switch off for each frame. Each animation would output the nine separate finish options. Cinema can do this quite easily. I assume that Max is your app of choice and this can be accomplished. No matter how you tackle this, good luck! Clever. Great suggestion and a good way to avoid messing up setting up multiple renders to a network renderer or batching them all somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 In Max you can save the materials in a Scene State and use Batch Render to render out all the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotten42 Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 In response to all the PM's offering help...thanks... ...but I have a buddy locally that I use for over-flow work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 $1300 a day seems like a lot now but I guarantee that by the end of this you'll curse the day you ever saw that furniture. I’m impressed that you’re still using lightscape, I loved that program but couldn’t deal with the fact that I was stuck with using one computer to handle all the calculations. I could never get their version of distributed rendering to work on our network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horhe Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 In response to all the PM's offering help...thanks... ...but I have a buddy locally that I use for over-flow work. I think it would be best for you if you stopped posting and started modeling! :D Good luck m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfienoakes Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 "108 Renders In 21 Days" Sounds like the title of a film, along the lines of a mix of "28 days later" and "around the world in 80 days".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotten42 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 "108 Renders In 21 Days" Sounds like the title of a film, along the lines of a mix of "28 days later" and "around the world in 80 days".... after no sleep for three weeks I'm going to look like something out of 28 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb602 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hopefully you won't be found wandering the streets in a hospital gown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Is this the kind of thing that you can set in a light stage? If so, the timeline sounds ambitious, but not impossible. I recently did 22 furniture renders in 5 days (on the side as well) which doesn't quite mesh up with your schedule but I didn't kill myself either. Here are a couple examples using my light stage. Good luck man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotten42 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 So I'm into the project now. There was a delay from the manufacturer as to what typicals they wanted done. I have my process down and things are going smoothly. I do 4 renders each night after work and then I do 18 on the weekend. Things are going better than I expected. I've figured out a nice work flow with Lightscape to get me through this. What I didn't expect is how retarded I am. As busy as I am you would think that I would turn down other work, but no! I've taken on two more jobs. WTF is it with this field? I can go a month without any jobs and then have 6 people call me up in a matter of two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinsley Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 haha... funny stuff! As to taking on more jobs... I think a little mental instability helps with working in this field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Johnston Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Can you post any images of what you've done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Cassil Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Feast or famine. That's just how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koper Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 G'luck, & remember to have a cup of coffee, or 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotten42 Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 Well...I'm half way through the project (54 renders) It's a bit behind schedule because the client made changes after I had already done 22 renders! aaarrrggghh! I have until the end of the month to finish the rest. I'm getting very tired of working my day job and then coming home to render until 1:00 each night. Next time I'm going to give them a quote double to what I did this time. On a side note, I wish our Canadain dollar would settle down. I get paid in US funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa2 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Are you allowed to show us some of the renderings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creasia Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I came across this post about a week ago. Good luck with your project man! I did a bunch of workstation component renderings for Enterprise Rent a Car. It was a good thing that they only wanted low resolution renderings, but with Max, Vray and Mark Olsons proprietary material script, which automatically assigns materials by layer, we actually set up the and rendered about 70 white background renderings in in one afternoon. If you are interested, I could share the process with you. I am not sure if you are using Max or Lightscape though. Shaun Cahoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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