ahmon Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I'm putting an image on the back of my business card. This is what i have come up with so far. The big "J" for Jaba-3d a ladder then a rope then steps leading to a door. Any ideas on what else i can do to make this better. The only thing that is definate is the colors. Help please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagor Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 my answer is "yes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Whats on the other side? Is this your logo? My thoughts are thats its too fiddly, bad colours, and not particularly striking or memorable. I would have thought something alot simpler would work better, especially at a range of different scales (ie web, letterhead, signage etc) What about just a silhouette of this image in black and white or with just 2 colours? Even just the grass silhouette with a simple 'J' emerging from the nice complex and sharp lines of the grass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagor Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 i agry with Nic, do it as simple as possible. But keep style! one of my bcard is "dagor" on one side and phone number on other side )) i have several brard )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneis Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I'm thinking you could lose the grass, sky and shadow and just render with an occlusion pass to add some depth. Word of warning - your colour scheme may not look too good when converted to CMYK for print. You can do a quick test in Photoshop... in the menu go View>Gamut Warning. This should highlight any colours that won't translate to the CMYK gamut. Also consider that for a logo, it's best to keep to around 2 colours. Any more and you have an expensive print-job for every piece of stationery you print. Most people won't look at your logo for more than a few seconds either, so it is a waste of detail that will only confuse the viewer. Of course there are exceptions like rainbows, for example. You could make it more effective by removing the type on the letter "J" and placing that in 2D below. Hope you don't mind, but I had a quick stab at it just to show you what I mean (please excuse the REALLY dodgy photoshopping Also included a screenshot of the gamut warning...the grey shows the regions that need adjusting... S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagor Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 may be ask some of pro 2d designer for help? it`s your bussines, and if bcard will be not good - you can lose some of client. but if it will be good you can include bcard inputs in your price and it will be repaid a hunderfold!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfienoakes Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Do you have a logo already on the front of your business card? Is this "J" just to highlight some 3D skills.. What exactly is the purpose of the "J". As mentioned above, if it is the logo, its too complex, if its to showcase your 3D skills, I dont think it really tells anyone anything. A business card should look slick.. nice and clean. Really it is giving someone an idea of your business, nothing more. If its too complex or cluttered it may give someone the wrong idea. I would save the images etc for websites, or a flyer of some sort, like an A5 card that people can see an idea of your work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTaylor Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 the ladder the rope the steps around the letter??? the only relevant part of the logo i can see is that the J relates to jabba... after that i don't understand how it relates to what your selling or gives a very good impression of who you potential are. Logo's, although not the be all and end all, are very powerful tools in creating a professional appearance at the 1st instance, which i'm afraid i don't feel yours does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Generally speaking, intricate 3d images don't work in logos. It's best to stick to a nice, simple 2d number and not try to crowbar your 3d skills in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAWUK Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 A business card should look slick.. nice and clean. Really it is giving someone an idea of your business, nothing more. If its too complex or cluttered it may give someone the wrong idea. . Couldn’t agree more, we’ve just been through a re branding exercise and spent along time looking at different options all of which we tried to keep as simple yet striking as possible. The problem with sticking an image on the reverse is that it demonstrates your abilities at the moment of print, several months down the line you may find your 3d skills surpass the work your producing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmon Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks for the insight guys. I think i will be going simple now, real simple. Just a "J" on the back. Once again Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Generally speaking, intricate 3d images don't work in logos. It's best to stick to a nice, simple 2d number and not try to crowbar your 3d skills in there. additionally you need to keep in mind that it is always best to have a logo that can be easily created in a vector format for large scale printing. Say your name is going on the biggest billboard you can think of, It's alot easier to create a small vecter logo file in illustrator and send it on, rather than render out your logo at a bajillion pixels wide and send them a monsterous rastered file. look to the pros when you design your logo. Keep it clean simple and professional. Not even Pixar or Dreamworks will put 3d objects into their logo, and for a good reason. Your logo will say something about you, and if you keep it clean, it will say only what you want. For instance, your J with all the shapes on it says to me, I just learned 3d and I'm trying too hard to stick every whiz-bang idea I can into this image. And as mentioned your skills will change with time, but if you pay for a 1000 cards and decide down the line your design wasn't what you wished it to be anymore, then your stuck with a lot of business cards that you would rather not use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesTaylor Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 "when you choke a smurf...... what color does it turn???" you must have some long days at work Brain!! quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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