People Montage

[vodka79]

Hello everyone! A happy 2008 to you guys. I would like to know is there anywhere to purchase People montage for sitting positions? I've got a couple of collections but they are all people walking etc. Please assist. Thanks!

[STRAT]

individuals or crowds? for crowds i usually make the best use of flickr. saying that, the last job i worked on we went out and did a photoshoot ourselves.

[EddieLeon]

Sorry to plug my website, but we have some good pictures of people sitting for $5 each.

 

http://www.modelup.com/productview.php?categoryid=163&osCsid=e07f1bba734803a03ab9b22f96c1f7a6

 

I bet there are a few other websites out there that sell good pictures. If you do a large volume of work I suggest you do a photo shoot and pick the exact type of people you need. Another option is to go out and take pictures of random people at a cafe or somewhere public. I know a NY artist that does this. But, I think you can get in big trouble if you don't get a release from the people you photograph.

[ronll]

But, I think you can get in big trouble if you don't get a release from the people you photograph.

 

I'm curious as to what the concensus is on this. I've always been under the impression that it is legal to photograph people without their permission IF they are on public property. This does not mean that you can use their photo for profit. However, I have also been under the impression that IF they are not recognizable, there is no liability. I have always been careful to photo people facing away from the camera, or far enough away that they can not be recognized. On a few that are facing the camera, I have found that it is not too difficult, altho tedious, to modify a face in Photoshop so that they are not at all the same person.

 

Granted I do not have any sound legal advice on this. Does anybody know the legalities of this matter?

[EddieLeon]

Maybe we can ask a Paparazzi? I bet they know what's legal

 

Actually, Ron brings up a great point. If they are on public property then it shouldn't be a problem. It would be great to have an attorney give us some advice on this.

[PAWUK]

I'm curious as to what the concensus is on this. I've always been under the impression that it is legal to photograph people without their permission IF they are on public property. This does not mean that you can use their photo for profit. However, I have also been under the impression that IF they are not recognizable, there is no liability. I have always been careful to photo people facing away from the camera, or far enough away that they can not be recognized. On a few that are facing the camera, I have found that it is not too difficult, altho tedious, to modify a face in Photoshop so that they are not at all the same person.

 

Granted I do not have any sound legal advice on this. Does anybody know the legalities of this matter?

 

 

Hi Guys

 

We recentley had to take some shots in a school for one of our jobs and only had to get the headmasters permission (One of our designers is going out with his daughter). However you set me thinking and did a quick search and came across this on About.com hope its of use to you lot across the pond

 

Photographer's Rights Overview

From Liz Masoner,

Your Guide to Photography.

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What/Where Can I Photograph?

Ok, so we know security groups are using 9/11 as an excuse to tell photographers to go away. What can I photograph then?

 

In general, if you can see it - you can photograph it. Public spaces are fair game for photography. In addition, you can photograph private property while you are standing on public property. As long as you are not invading someone's right to privacy (no telephoto lenses through lenses into people's showers), you can take photographs. If someone is in a public place you can photograph them. This includes private property used as a public place. Churches, malls, office lobbies, and other privately owned venues are still public spaces. In cases of privately-owned public spaces, they can tell you to stop taking images. But they can't take your images or camera or detain you.

 

* Some Examples of Things/Places You Can Photograph Police Officers on Public Property

* People at a Park

* Traffic

* Public Figures (politicians, celebrities, etc)

* Public Infrastructure

* Ships

[ronll]

Thanks, that pretty much agrees with what I suspected about what we CAN photograph. But the question now shifts to what photos we can publish as part of a profit making business. If we photograph 60,000 people in a football stadium, can we publish it without each person having to sign a release? If so, can we publish a photo of 60 people? 6 people? One person?

[PAWUK]

Thanks, that pretty much agrees with what I suspected about what we CAN photograph. But the question now shifts to what photos we can publish as part of a profit making business. If we photograph 60,000 people in a football stadium, can we publish it without each person having to sign a release? If so, can we publish a photo of 60 people? 6 people? One person?

 

 

Just to muddy the waters even more found this by attorney Dianne Brinson

 

 

'Publicity and Privacy Rights of Individuals

You may need permission to photograph people due to state laws giving individuals privacy and publicity rights.

 

Most states in the US recognize that individuals have a right of privacy. The right of privacy gives an individual a legal claim against someone who intrudes on the individual's physical solitude or seclusion, and against those who publicly disclose private facts. Unless you have permission, avoid publishing or distributing any photo of an individual that reveals private facts about the individual (particularly if revealing those private facts might embarrass the individual).

 

Almost half the states in the US recognize that individuals have a right of publicity. The right of publicity gives an individual a legal claim against one who uses the individual's name, face, image, or voice for commercial benefit without obtaining permission. In case you are wondering how the news media handle this, newspapers and news magazines have a "fair use" privilege to publish names or images in connection with reporting a newsworthy event.

 

Be particularly careful about celebrities. Using a photograph of a celebrity for your own commercial gain - for example, posting a photo you took of Clint Eastwood on your business's marketing material or Web site - is asking for a lawsuit, even if you took the photograph when you ran into Clint on a public street.

 

Commercial photographers avoid right of publicity/privacy lawsuits by obtaining photographic releases from people shown in the their shots. If you are considering selling your photos or using them on your Web site, you may want to do the same. The Multimedia Law and Business Handbook contains a sample release. Experienced performers and models are accustomed to signing these releases. '

 

......I guess it comes down to who is likely to see the photos and are they likely to object, if the answer is yes then get a release or buy stock shots that already have them. Or use family and friends.

[Iain Denby]

I have a copy of that Photographer's Rights Overview. You do have the right to photograph people in a public space, absolutely. but the people you photograph also have the right to be pissed off about it and confront you even if they have no legal right to do so! be careful.