Max 2009 info

[Sawyer]

It seems to me that a lot of the problem ADSK is having is that they are on an old business model. I read part of Kens comments at cgtalk and I have to say I was taken back by the times he would say something along the lines of "We have great plans but we can't tell you" or "this is part of a 6 year + vision of the the software."

 

It seems that this kind of secrecy really worked pre-internet. Or for companies where the the client is not that educated in the main product. Information and software development are not being distributedt at the same rate. Now we know all about mudbox being bought and we want to know what is happening with that tool. Bu we are not told about mudbox we get silence but we hear about some restructuring of the software that I am not sure many people were waiting for or asking for. Now Ken says "be patient we have a plan we can't show it to you but its great for the future you just might not see it with some of these tiny steps" my thought is that if we aren't happy now with the way the software is being developed why would we be happy in 6 years? In 6 years we will want different things than are available now. If you are planning what to give us in 6 years now you are 7 years behind.

 

Now I know companies really think they need a level of secrecy to protect their investments but honestly there seems to be so much competition but almost no technology gap (if a great improvement to software is made by 1 company others will use that idea or technology. As far as I can see there is no intellectual copyright for software development) And I think this is great. Look at the competition between MR and Vray. Its good for us.

 

The other thing this release makes me think is that it seems desperate to me. It seems like something is happening that we don't know about and it doesn't seem good. Was Viz loosing money or not worth continuing? It seems like you want to develop buzz and excitement for a product and this isn't doing that this is like a jack-in-the-box product that we are being encouraged to buy. Surprises only work if they are exciting not if they are frightening or confusing or just a fancy re-wording of existing technology.

 

Give us transparency in the development process that way everyone knows what to expect. With the subscription program it seems like there is no reason not to otherwise it seems like every year will be a disappointment.

[gfa2]

I'm still using Max 9 because even though I've got Max 2008 I've seen absolutely no reason to upgrade.

 

yeah, I'm still on max 8. I've got max 9 and 2008 sitting on a shelf but haven't felt overly compelled to upgrade. Plus some of my plugins won't work if I upgrade, so I'd have to upgrade them (Onyxtree, FinalToon, etc.)

[Koper]

don't know what to make of it but reading the last link it sounds like a specialization split.

"Each “flavor” of 3ds Max will be specifically tailored for its intended audience"

 

Hey, Autodesk will have my full attention when that other plug-in is released for max, what’s it called again?.. the one they got a couple of years ago.... oh yea Maya.

 

 

By the looks of things, Max design won't be a hit

 

 

I'm on max2008 now since the beginning of the year and must say the stability is phenomenal, had my 1st and only crash so far yesterday, but then again, it doesn't help running 3 versions of max + cs3 with high rez pics all at the same time

[vizwhiz]

is anyone runnign max (any version) on windows Vista?

i installed max 9 but it wouldnt run under vista (my work laptop)

 

was supposed To have wiped The laptop and gone backwards To XP

i read somewhere That The 'newer' (flavor of The month) releases

 

should run under vista. any info? i am stuck

& Trying To get The boss people To upgrade

 

(or odwngrade The OS if necessary)

 

Thanx

[jinsley]

All this sounds pretty typical when you read through the forums... it's really disappointing for all of us who just made our first plunge and purchased Viz 2008, what does this mean?

 

Will their be updates?

 

Was our recent purchase not a good choice now?

 

I am just starting out in the industry of arch. viz. and the purchase pretty much ate up my software budget for the year, hearing some of your opinions might settle my nerves a little...

[vizwhiz]

There will be upgrades or cross grades if you just recently bought VIZ

so That you can move over To 'max design'. This move by autodesk has

 

been pending for about The last 6 or 7 years

recent new of VIZ's demise has been long profit-see-d

[jinsley]

Thx Vizwiz... brutal. I wasn't aware of the intended change.

[AJLynn]

Did you buy the subscription? If you did the upgrade is only $250 and basically skips you half a version ahead of where you would have been - and if you use mental ray, you're going to find that the upgrade is worth it.

 

But if you don't feel like upgrading, you don't have to. That Viz license doesn't expire.

[Justin Hunt]

A couple of things to bear in mind

 

1 - this is only PART of the new feature list , theres more to come

2 - considering that VIZ was always 6 month behind in development you should be happy that you wont be any more

3 - I am glad that they have a 7 year plan, it tells me they plan to be around for a while

 

As to being still on max9, boy have you missed out, max 9 is really buggy hell it took 2 service packs to get some of the basics right. To me max9 is really max8.5 . Max2008 was problably one of the best upgrades yet. The interface speed alone is worth it. The mental ray updates were what really did it for me. It also runs and is supported on Vista. It is well documented that max9 isn't for Vista and not supported, it came out before Vista was even released.

 

I for one was saying that Viz was going to be dropped ages ago. I see max design becoming more separated from max down the line. This is just the start. I see max and maya becoming more alined but still separate, eventually giving birth to a new breed of 3D software (hence the 7 year plan). This is purely speculation and partly wishfull thinking on my part.

 

JHV