stylEmon Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 So i just heard that Autodesk is discontining viz... FINALLY!! I never really saw the benifit of VIZ. So, you paid 2G for a stripped version of max... why?!! Sorry for those of you that actually use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias_marks Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I do have to say I'm excited about this too!! Our firm has used Viz for quite some time now due to the lower price, but I've always pushed for an upgrade to Max to get all the features. Finally we'll be forced to upgrade. woo hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davistalexander Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I used viz cause thats what i could of afford...... and now i get to upgrade to max for cheap.... real cheap.......glad i held out :D da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I used viz cause thats what i could of afford...... and now i get to upgrade to max for cheap.... real cheap.......glad i held out :D da Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylEmon Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 congrats to all you. I figured no one actaully WANTED to use viz, and i hate when software co.s strip a good software just and rebrand it as crap in a box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I dunno - Viz isn't as useful as Max but it's no slouch. For an architect wanting to render stills it's provided all the important features at a low cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxlee Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Agreed, Viz is still very useful. anybody have details on the upgrade options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taleequale Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hi all, I think that the Viz's death was in the mind of Autodesk when they bought Maya.. maybe they could start to sell Max at a lower price.. and, obviously, I agree with these two above.. as an architect you don't need all the power of Max.. so why to spend more if you won't to use those additional commands.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Agreed, Viz is still very useful. anybody have details on the upgrade options? There are promotional prices for the first few months - I think it's April, May and maybe June, but you need to ask your vendor - where the crossgrade from a recent Viz to Max09 is about half the usual price, and about $250 if you're on subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3d Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Isn't what's happening the same thing only with a new name? I mean before we had Max & Viz. Now we have MAx entertainment version & Max design version. Max design version = viz, just a name change? I've read the release from autodesk, but I don't understand the need for two versions unless they are taking something away from the design version. Or adding something to the entertainment version, I just don't know what that "something" is...... while I agree that viz was good for architect's needs, that's only true from a still image stand point and even then, I've used particles in max to generate instanced geometry in an architectural still image. something I couldn't do in Viz. and animation wise, architects hands are/were tied with viz in some senarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Max Design > Viz. Basically, it's the same as regular Max, minus the SDK, plus a lighting analysis tool. Unless you write code, you want the Design version. I've heard it said (by reliable sources not to be named) that this is phase 1 in a new plan and the AEC features will be increasing in subsequent versions, but the important part is that now the two versions have the same core and development schedule. Without the long-range plan it wouldn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylEmon Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 oops, wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcroteau Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 great...about a month after my company bought (not subscribed) Viz 2008. Does anyone know how much it would cost to upgrade to a new Max Design license (again, bought, not subscription). By the way, are Arch and Design materials not supported by Viz 2008? That would really top it all off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAYMOND Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 well Viz was my world of modelng and rendering for 6 years I was always impressed with the program I just didn't have a good computer to work with it... no sure what the next step should be... don't be too mean about viz every software has its own cus words... r:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Clancy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Personally, I am very happy with this new development, professionally I am terribly frustrated. I just shelled out a fortune fro 6 viz 2008 licenses (OK, 3 of them were upgrades, but that's not the point). As I trained in MAX years ago, I was always running into deadends in Viz. Things I knew max could do. I am hoping this MAX design package can do sub-object animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace1721 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi all, I think that the Viz's death was in the mind of Autodesk when they bought Maya.. maybe they could start to sell Max at a lower price.. and, obviously, I agree with these two above.. as an architect you don't need all the power of Max.. so why to spend more if you won't to use those additional commands.. Defenitely agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAYMOND Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 well i used VIZ for 5 years almost everyday.... it was a great help and i certainly enjoyed it...and got amazing renderings from it. however, I do agree that, having all the features of max would be much better even in architectural applications remember, that many of us probably would of never ventured to the full max if it were not for viz.... so don't say it never had its value... my 3 cents (my thots are worth more now) ray:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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