AJLynn Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 ...not surprisingly, Revit is still slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 This is actually fun. I just did another computer in the office, 8600GT to FX1700, Cinebench from 4300 to 6100 and Sketchup running a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipjor Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 cool, i can't take credit for this, i'm having a workstation built by a local guy here in Atlantaa and i spec'd out a FX1700 and he said why waste your $$$ i can do this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Seriously? I've never heard of a vendor doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Maybe I will try this on one of the work computers...I will be damned if I mess up my gfx card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Wow.... Well, might as well try it - my card is under warranty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 I tired it. I get to running RivaTuner and I click customise and Low Leverl system tweaks. There is a FAN tab, but no NVStrap tab. So, looks like it's not an option for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Ooh, that's unfortunate. I just saw a link Slinger posted to a deal on 8800GTS cards, guess I'll go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 I tired it. I get to running RivaTuner and I click customise and Low Leverl system tweaks. There is a FAN tab, but no NVStrap tab. So, looks like it's not an option for me.What version RivaTuner are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 What version RivaTuner are you running? Version 2.09 It asked if I wanted it to check for updates and I said yes. I was kinda all excited and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizfx Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Hi Next week I`ll have a new system based on the Intel Core Quad Q9450 processor and Intel Bontrail INBLKDX38BT mainboard. The question is: should I choose Nvidia 8800GT over Nvidia 9600 which is my primary choice because of the price difference (taking count of the soft-mod tweaking)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 I'm fairly sure the 9600 is not moddable and in light of what Joel says it looks like the 8800GT isn't either. The 8800GTS is, but things can go wrong with that, so don't buy based on the expectation of modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 The issue with the soft-mod is the guy who made the article is saying that the Quadro match for a 8800GTS is a Quadro4600....hmmm let's see, 8800GTS has 320/640mb....Quadro4600 has 768mb. To me, that right there is going to be an issue with the coding of the cards. I am curious if you can just load profiles into nVidia control panel and use Quadro drivers and see a difference. I currently have Quadro based drivers 175.51 installed on my rig for my 8800GTS, since it was on the supported card list, but who knows if you can figure away to lad some app profiles into Nvidia. The more and more I look at this soft-mod, the more and more it seems like a dud by simply switching the profile in RivaTuner. Who knows...best bet is to go show the link for this soft-mod and post it at http://www.guru3d.com forums and see if anyone responds with doing it or see what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Well, on the PCs I tried it on at work, with the 8800GTS it became a 4600 with 320MB and the clock and memory speeds of the card (it's an XFX pre-OC'ed card and it retained the XFX clocks) and with the 8600GT it became a 1700 with 256MB and the stock 8600GT clocks, according to GPU-Z. In the case of the 8800GTS the Specviewperf and Cinebench OGL tests improved and I had a noticeable performance improvement in Sketchup with complex models and antialiasing turned on. On the 8600GT I didn't run Specviewperf but the Cinebench numbers went up dramatically as did Sketchup performance. So I think it's safe to say that it did work, for these two particular cards - I don't know enough to say anything more than that it's possible. This was all in XP32 by the way, I haven't tried it in anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Good to hear Andy...yeah we use 32-bit at work and have 8800GT's...At home I have a eVGA 8800GTS 320mb ACS3 edition which i really don't want to screw up, and I can't really mod the one's at work. I may look for a 8800gts on ebay or somewhere for $50, if that's possible and then try it. I only use ADT2008, Sketchup, and Podium to render Sketchup models with. The thing for me at home is I have a Q6600 and my sketchup runs flawless here and at work we have some old Pentium950s(dual cores) and the machine can't handle it for poop....but the kicker is, Sketchup is a single-core app, so I don't know why my computer here at home runs Sketch-up so much better than work. maybe newer cpu tech, more cache, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 It's because of your per-core speed - a 950 is, what, a 3.something GHz dual core P4? Old Netburst architecture. A Core 2 chip's got a much more efficient pipeline, and to compare per-core speed you pretty much double the GHz of the Core 2 to get the P4 equivalent, so even if you've got the Q6600 at stock speed it's like a quad 4.8GHz P4. And the speed difference between the 8800GT and GTS isn't all that much, but the secondary market for GTS cards must have been crushed by the GT, so if you find a GTS at $50 that's got to be the best price/performance out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visual3d Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Im not sure just how much is the 8800gt or fx1700. but if you can afford, get the 9800 gx2. i had a 13000000 surface project and was still able to manuvere in the viewport with everything turned on. by the way i was using the quadro 5600 and didnt notice any much diffrence. so i sold it and got the 9800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ky Lane Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 For the price, get 2x8800GT's and SLi them together... itll shit all over a Quadro for half the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 thanks buddies for the suggessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfinicky Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I'd have to say hands down 8800. the quadro series are a pain. I have a quadro on my laptop and it keeps causing system crashes. Rather irritating. Have a Geforce 8800 on the desktop and there's simply no comparisson. Never a bug or blue screen to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligrafix Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Ahaan. thanks buddy. This means that 8800 is king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Whoa, back up. If your Quadro is giving you a lot of crashes, get tech support help and try updating the driver - these things aren't supposed to do that. The Geforce cards aren't "king" - they have bugs of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfinicky Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 No, I have the latest driver, just a crappy card I think. It's the mobile version, have it installed on an HP laptop. Total hunk of garbage. I will never go HP again. I've been using Dells and for some reason decided to go HP. Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 That's an odd statement. Usually it's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfinicky Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Lol, I know, but my Dell machines have been amazing. Seriously...rugged, fantastic performance running all sorts of resource draining goods. I think I just might have one bad experience...isn't that all it takes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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