juand731 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Im not that great at making the onyx trees, anybody have an idea of they have a forum where you can download trees that are made already? I used the nursery but they only offer a few, I did purchase their confier, and broadleaf modeler and library. For example im looking for a Post Oak, Red Maple, Red Pine, Beech trees, etcc.... if anybody knows please let me know thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbibb Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 from the license agreement: "...you are NOT licensed to use the Software in connection with the sale, resale, license or other commercial reproduction or distribution of images and 3D models generated by the Software." So it's against the license agreement to sell your models, even in the treestorm file format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianKitts Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It's illegal to sell models made with onyx, but I'm not sure if it would be illegal to sell a library of parameter files that can be used to generate trees. Because this requires the end user to have a licensed onyx program to do anything with it, I'm sure it's something you'd have to ask onyx themselves, but I've never seen anything about making a library in the treestorm format. Heck if they were smart they would support such a program, because then it would encourage others to use their program if there was a larger base of available presets, similar to the way the vray-materials.de and mxmgallery.maxwellrender.com help push the use of the software by making it easier for newbies, and as a resource for all others. Which is really more of what I think Juan is looking for. If it was just tree models he was after I doubt it would he would limit his search to just "onyx trees" And to answer the question, each onyx package comes with a full folder of preset trees. I never create trees from scratch I always find something similar and modify it. Have you gone through the included library of trees yet? For instance the attached image is the broadleaf library of trees the come with the broadleaf package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 in the past i have thought about starting a thread here (on cgarchitect) where people could upload an Onyx Tree preset, and an image of what it looks like, number of poly's, etc.. basically, creating a nursery here for those who use Onyx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbibb Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I think it would be great to buy/sell/exchange the onyx tree files. (.bro for broadleaf, .con for conifers, .flo for flowers ..etc). It would make sense for Onyx to allow that, as you cannot even use those files unless you've already purchased the program. As Brian mentioned, does anyone know if it is allowed? It was my understanding that it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juand731 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 well the license states "you are NOT licensed to use the Software in connection with the sale, resale, license or other commercial reproduction or distribution of images and 3D models generated by the Software." But what if we are not selling but building a nursery of our own here at CGarchitect, and plus you can not use the treestorm file format if you do not have a licensed copy of the program. I guess maybe what Onyx could be trying to say is that you can not profit from it by selling their format. But if they have a nursery that you can download for free, why can we not build a free nursery of our own. Someone should drop an email to Onyx and find out if we can do it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juand731 Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 anyword on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Shall we start a thread? I've got some to offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juand731 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 yeh lets start a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 First someone needs to contact Onyx to ensure this is legal. If they say yes, THEN you can start a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Jeff, you're like my mother. Always there to keep reality in check hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mottle Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Jeff, you're like my mother. Always there to keep reality in check hahaha HAHAHAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Jeff, you're like my mother. Always there to keep reality in check My mother has never met reality, I'll have to introduce them sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Nah my mum doesn't need any more friends, she just talks to herself... Speaking of OnyxTrees(!!) they do have that nursery thing on their site, they'd probably just rather we give the data files to them instead... I've just emailed them... I'll get back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well they've given the go ahead as long as they're in the loop yay! Now. I suggest the following. Someone (prefferably a mod) starts a thread and continues to update the original post with all parameter files posted in the following posts. I think the trees should be grouped into which editor it uses (broadleaf, bamboo etc.) Im not even going to bother downloading if there arent any indicators of the quality of the tree so I propose that each upload needs to have a thumbnail included (the tree editors create one automatically) as well as a very short description as well as perhaps a link to an image of the tree in real life. We need to be careful not to upload any mesh files and no renders of the trees from the tree editors as this will break the onyx EULA. I personally would like to do some scans of leaves for the corresponding trees but i understand that for some this is unnessesary and may not be possible so perhaps this can be an option when uploading? thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Homeless Guy Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 W Im not even going to bother downloading if there arent any indicators of the quality of the tree so I propose that each upload needs to have a thumbnail included (the tree editors create one automatically) as well as a very short description as well as perhaps a link to an image of the tree in real life. No images from Onyx??? That is an odd agreement thing if you ask me. I am pretty sure I have posted screen shots of Onyx in the past when I was trying to explain something. Anyway... I would prefer at least a 600x600 pixel image of each tree, rendered out in the software package of your choice. You can't tell much from a thumbnail, and I am less likely to download a tree file if I have to download it, and check it for quality before I decide if I want to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well they've given the go ahead as long as they're in the loop yay! Now. I suggest the following. Someone (prefferably a mod) starts a thread and continues to update the original post with all parameter files posted in the following posts. I think the trees should be grouped into which editor it uses (broadleaf, bamboo etc.) Im not even going to bother downloading if there arent any indicators of the quality of the tree so I propose that each upload needs to have a thumbnail included (the tree editors create one automatically) as well as a very short description as well as perhaps a link to an image of the tree in real life. We need to be careful not to upload any mesh files and no renders of the trees from the tree editors as this will break the onyx EULA. I personally would like to do some scans of leaves for the corresponding trees but i understand that for some this is unnessesary and may not be possible so perhaps this can be an option when uploading? thoughts? nice work - i look forward to this thread. i'll try and contribute where / when i can..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAcky Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 No images from Onyx??? That is an odd agreement thing if you ask me. I am pretty sure I have posted screen shots of Onyx in the past when I was trying to explain something. Anyway... I would prefer at least a 600x600 pixel image of each tree, rendered out in the software package of your choice. You can't tell much from a thumbnail, and I am less likely to download a tree file if I have to download it, and check it for quality before I decide if I want to use it. I thought i had replied to this post...wierd. Im a little concerned that any image larger than a thumbnail will break EULA. Check out the size of the pics here I think they're quite a reasonable size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malevy Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 So do we have a thread for the onyx trees ? it would sure help me out since im just starting to learn onyx I thought i had replied to this post...wierd. Im a little concerned that any image larger than a thumbnail will break EULA. Check out the size of the pics here I think they're quite a reasonable size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfworld Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I have a few dozen trees I can offer. I've already made the previews, rendered with GI. On a side note, it's such a shame Onyx has abandoned the Mac platform, alas we can still use it (and we do, all the time), that is until an OS update breaks it. Best, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leed Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I have a few dozen trees I can offer. I've already made the previews, rendered with GI. On a side note, it's such a shame Onyx has abandoned the Mac platform, alas we can still use it (and we do, all the time), that is until an OS update breaks it. Best, Ian Ian is this true...?? I just thought they were not developing anymore... happy with what they got... http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/29438-suggested-onyx-improvements.html I will be gutted if they have stopped ...just started getting into it.. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfworld Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Yeah, we've been trying to get them to port the Electric Image plug-in to UB so it will work with the latest Mac version of EIAS, but their response has been simply that they are not developing for OS X anymore. So... We can still use their stand alone apps under rosetta, but there is no way (to my knowledge) to do trees with wind on the Mac any more. Sorry for hijacking the thread! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malevy Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 That would be great and would definitely help me get started in understanding onyx.. I have a few dozen trees I can offer. I've already made the previews, rendered with GI. On a side note, it's such a shame Onyx has abandoned the Mac platform, alas we can still use it (and we do, all the time), that is until an OS update breaks it. Best, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hamelrijckx Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Hi guys, That thread started somewhere? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Smith Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 (bump) anyone?? Jeff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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