Rconce01 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 GUYS I RECENTLY GOT A KILLER DEAL ON A PRECEISION DELL T5400 BUT IT ONLY CAME WITH 2GB OF RAM. I WENT AHEAD AND BOUGHT SOME EXTRA RAM BUT IT ENDS UP I GOT SERVER RAM, BY THE WAY IT MEETS ALL THE SPECS AS FAR AS DDR2 PC2 5300 ECC. I DID NOTICE WHEN I WAS TOO LATE THAT ITS THE SAME SPECS EXCEPT ONE IS DESCRIBED AS SERVER RAM AND ANOTHER WHICH IS HALF THE PRICE IS DESKTOP RAM. WHAT SHOULD I DO …EXCUSE THE CAPS I WAS WORKING IN CAD WHEN I TYPED THIS. ALSO HOW IMPORTANT ARE HEAT SINKS ON RAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I never mix ram. I always, if humanly possible, use the same brand, the same speed, the same make and model. With uber-fast hardware, I've seen too many instances where someone's render ends up not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Failing that, use a reputable company that lets you choose by your PC model. I've never gone wrong with crucial.com. This is because there are a lot of variables when choosing the stuff and it's pretty easy to get the wrong thing. As for "server ram"... there are a lot of things this could mean. It might be that your PC actually requires "server" ram in that it uses FBDIMMs if it's a Xeon system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rconce01 Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 It's All The Same Specs Except For The Fact That Its Server Ram And The Brnad Is Kingston...the Originals Are Samsung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Dude, you've got some caps issues. Try this: -Use the shift key, not caps lock. -Use a capital letter to start the first word of a sentence and any proper nouns. -All caps is okay for acronyms, but not necessary for acronyms that have become words. So in you sentence, capitalize "It's", "Kingston" and "Samsung", and you can choose "RAM" or "ram". But to address the real point, you would need o be more specific about what is meant by server ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rconce01 Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 You are pretty clever my friend with those caps jokes:D Well I am trying to figure it out honestly the only difference is the price and the fact that on the description it says "Server ram" vs "Desktop Ram". I did a couple searches and some people claim its "better ram" I guess its more stable or better quality since it needs to run an entire server. The pins are all the same they are 240pin. Others like the guys at Tiger Direct say that differenciation does not exist. But i know it does because on newegg they are stating the diffence in the title as as far as the specs go they are unaffected except for the fact the same amount of ram will cost you twice as much if it says server ram. Visually all the server Ram appear to have heat sinks, where the regular desktop ram doesn't necessarily have heatsinks. MY BAD ABOUT THE CAPS GUYS! Dude, you've got some caps issues. Try this: -Use the shift key, not caps lock. -Use a capital letter to start the first word of a sentence and any proper nouns. -All caps is okay for acronyms, but not necessary for acronyms that have become words. So in you sentence, capitalize "It's", "Kingston" and "Samsung", and you can choose "RAM" or "ram". But to address the real point, you would need o be more specific about what is meant by server ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneis Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Why not post the make and model number of the two types of RAM you bought, stating which is the original. We may be able to help you then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rconce01 Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) Why not post the make and model number of the two types of RAM you bought, stating which is the original. We may be able to help you then Ok this is what i bought for $180 (SERVER RAM) Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 FB-DIMM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Fully Buffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR667D2D4F5K2/4G - Retail Item #: N82E16820134327 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134327&Tpk=N82E16820134327 This is the same Ram except it is (DESKTOP RAM) and half the price Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5K2/4G - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134193 Now the original Ram is what dell put in there Samsung 2GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 667MHz So far this is what i can conclude the original one appears to be fully buffered hence the description "FBD memory" the fist server type memory is also fully buffered but the one right after "the cheaper one appears to not be fully buffered." Edited May 8, 2008 by Rconce01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I don't think I'd buy anything computerised from "Tiger Direct"... Kingston RAM (I believe) is the last RAM manufacturer in the USA, and I've heard good things about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneis Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Ok this is what i bought for $180 (SERVER RAM) Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 FB-DIMM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) ECC Fully Buffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR667D2D4F5K2/4G - Retail Item #: N82E16820134327 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134327&Tpk=N82E16820134327 This is the same Ram except it is (DESKTOP RAM) and half the price Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5K2/4G - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134193 Now the original Ram is what dell put in there Samsung 2GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 667MHz So far this is what i can conclude the original one appears to be fully buffered hence the description "FBD memory" the fist server type memory is also fully buffered but the one right after "the cheaper one appears to not be fully buffered." Thanks for that, if you want to match your RAM as closely as possible, you will need to use the more expensive option. Main difference being the ECC - Error Correction Code. As ECC RAM stores/checks/passes data it is a wee bit slower, but error free. Here's a link that will list Kingston RAM modules that are 100% guaranteed compatibility with your T5400. http://www.ramcity.com.au/system/42378.htm When replacing the modules, you'll see four "slots" to place the RAM, hopefully they're colour-coded for you. If so, place the Samsung RAM in the first colour, and the new RAM in the second colour. If they aren't coloured, imagine they are numbered left to right...1/2/3/4. Insert the RAM like this, Samsung modules in 1/3, new modules in 2/4. G'luck, S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAllusionisst Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I don't think I'd buy anything computerised from "Tiger Direct"... I buy from them all the time, never had a problem, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Those are in fact two different types of RAM. The desktop RAM is regular DIMMs and the server RAM is FBDIMMs. FBDIMMs are more expensive and are required for Xeons (except the silly Xeons that go on Core2 motherboards). According to crucial.com a T5400 uses FBDIMMs and their price for 2x2GB is $247.99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I seem to remember cheesy catalogs from them, hawking all manner of things. But that was quite a few years ago. May not even be the same company, but it sounds like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rconce01 Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 Thanks for that, if you want to match your RAM as closely as possible, you will need to use the more expensive option. Main difference being the ECC - Error Correction Code. As ECC RAM stores/checks/passes data it is a wee bit slower, but error free. Here's a link that will list Kingston RAM modules that are 100% guaranteed compatibility with your T5400. http://www.ramcity.com.au/system/42378.htm When replacing the modules, you'll see four "slots" to place the RAM, hopefully they're colour-coded for you. If so, place the Samsung RAM in the first colour, and the new RAM in the second colour. If they aren't coloured, imagine they are numbered left to right...1/2/3/4. Insert the RAM like this, Samsung modules in 1/3, new modules in 2/4. G'luck, S. Ok good then i will keep the expensive ones which are on their way to me. I saw the color coding odd numbers have white tabs and even numbers have black tabs, that must be due to the dual channel memory. Like you said the samsungs are in the 1 and 3 tab and the new 2gb kingstons will go into the 2 and 4 slots. By the way the seller replied confirming that in fact i do need fully buffered dimm ecc server ram even though its a desktop. You know whats cool this thing has like 10 ram slots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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