craigball Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Hi can any one advise me on what I should be looking for in my new computer? I have just been given a quote (please find attached) on a computer designed for using 3ds max, photo shop Auto cad all the design software, also I want it to run on 64bit windows xp. Is the graphics card best for max? Any comments will be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 You'd do better with an 8800GT instead of an 8600. Also, why bother with a single Xeon CPU? Get a Core 2 Quad and save money. And the power supply is not good enough, whatever their blurb may say, you want it to be over 500W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 You'd do better with an 8800GT instead of an 8600. Also, why bother with a single Xeon CPU? Get a Core 2 Quad and save money. And the power supply is not good enough, whatever their blurb may say, you want it to be over 500W. yeah it is a quad, how come the 8600 has a 1gb and the 8800gt has less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have no idea why they chose to market those video card configurations, but going from 512mb to 1gb on the video card isn't going to do very much for you in pro apps. The increase in speed going to the 8800 series is going to be a lot more important to you than the extra VRAM. If it's massively textured games you're concerned with, the relative importance of the GPU speed will still be the overriding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 whats the make and model of the graphics card i need then ??? 8800?? dose ever thing other than the graphics card ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 8800GT is a good one. It's not very expensive and its speed is somewhere between the 8800GTS and the 8800GTX. Also, what I meant in my first post was that if you are looking at a computer with a single, quad-core Xeon CPU, that makes no sense from a budget perspective. It is more expensive than a system using a Core 2 Quad CPU and is not correspondingly more powerful. Now that I look at it, your computer vendor might be an idiot. I say this because the RAM and motherboard he has listed are probably incompatible - that Corsair part is normal DDR2 RAM for a desktop motherboard, and that motherboard uses FBDIMM memory. (Links provided for price comparison.) Is this a reputable vendor? By going with a Core 2 Quad system instead, you can save money to put towards the better video card and a better power supply - because whatever this guy says, you can get better "Amazing Performance" than an 8600 and the "Super High Performance" of a 400W power supply is probably not adequate especially if you want to add things like additional hard drives later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Bloody hell its all so Complicated thank you for all your help I don’t think he is a reputable vendor? What would you get for £1200 or $2400 am having a disaster trying to peace together a hi end pc Attached is my quote from dell thanks for all your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 As usual, I can't get the Dell web site to configure what I'm looking for. A simple desktop computer with a Core 2 Quad Q6700 CPU or similar, a Geforce video card and XP64. See if your vendor there will do it for you. Ask for: A Core 2 Quad CPU 4GB of DDR2 RAM A good motherboard - E.g., Asus P5K or similar A good power supply that's at least 550W A Geforce 8800GT card XP64 and all the usual stuff - hard drive, DVD burner, etc. No Xeons! Unless you need two of them there is no reason. Ask for a vanilla Windows install with no extra software added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 not long ago i built a similar system to that for 350$ but with dual core and quadro 4000 (6800) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 (edited) Bloody hell its all so Complicated thank you for all your help I don’t think he is a reputable vendor? What would you get for £1200 or $2400 am having a disaster trying to peace together a hi end pc Attached is my quote from dell thanks for all your helpPersonally I would get a lower end gfx card and get a higher clocked cpu...especially being a Dell which you can't overclock. With that said, is this for your personal use or for work(are you paying for it)? If this is for you, I would go with a PC that you build yourself, as you get more bang for the buck and you don't get a mark-up from a company. Whats your overall budget? Does that include an OS and monitor or is that differently? When are you looking to get this system? If you want to go the pre-buit route, I would look at Dell's reburbs. My old Precision650 was a reburb that I got for half-price.....the one good think about Dell's outlet center is you will see computers marked as refurb, scratch and dent, etc. Scratch and dents are just blemishes on the cases from when shipped to customers and returned...basically a brand new computer. Also there stock fluctuates based off what is there....I have seen some damn good systems for some very low prices before. http://www.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/desktops?c=us&cs=28&l=en&s=dfb heres a example of a system: Precision T5400(System Identifier: EE851Z1V) Precision Workstation T5400 Mini-Tower: Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor E5405 (2.00GHz,2X6M L2,1333)Genuine Windows XP x64 Professional System Price:$1,769.00 Operating System Genuine Windows XP x64 Professional Memory 8 GB DDR2 ECC SDRAM 667MHz Dual Ranked (4 DIMMs) Hard Disk Drive 750 GB SATA II Hard Drive (7200RPM) Video 256MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX570, Dual Monitor DVI CapableBase Precision Workstation T5400 Mini-Tower: Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor E5405 (2.00GHz,2X6M L2,1333) Media Bay 16X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability Processor Additional Processor: Quad Core Intel Xeon E5405 (2.00GHz,2X6M L2,1333) Hardware Upgrade No Bezel Hardware is Microsoft Vista Capable No Floppy Drive USB Keyboard USB Keyboard USB 2 Button Mouse Edited May 24, 2008 by Slinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 any coments on the new speck i think this is the one??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisthenes Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) 1st comment is the PDF is too big 1.6 mb , i do full 24x36 color sheets at this size ... and being in UK i really couldn't say comparatively i built a similar system with a lesser video card (quadro 4000) for 700$ so i guess they charge a pretty penny to build/import this stuff Edited May 29, 2008 by Antisthenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 It's quite a lot more for the money, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 It's quite a lot more for the money, anyway. so you think i should go for this????? is there any thing i should change befor i go ahead and pay??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJLynn Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Don't ask me. If it works for you, buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinger Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Set-up looks fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterglow Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 how come the 8600 has a 1gb and the 8800gt has less? u can get the 8800GT with 1gig. fair bit cheaper than the fx1700, and i think u can software mod it into a fx1700 anyway, if you really need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Don't ask me. If it works for you, buy it. nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_cg Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I'd just go for a gaming 3d card, the benifit never seems to be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted June 2, 2008 Author Share Posted June 2, 2008 I'd just go for a gaming 3d card, the benifit never seems to be worth it. av gone for the quadro fx 1700 512MB i dont need a gameing one av got a PS3 for that stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_cg Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Haha. I didnt mean to play games on though? Gaming cards dont really give much difference in speed between the quadro's, despite the quadro's being 4 times the price. - viewports are very similar to the way a game engine works so not having a 'pro' card is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted June 2, 2008 Author Share Posted June 2, 2008 Haha. I didnt mean to play games on though? Gaming cards dont really give much difference in speed between the quadro's, despite the quadro's being 4 times the price. - viewports are very similar to the way a game engine works so not having a 'pro' card is irrelevant. ha ha sorry i looked into it and the quadro's and its designed for max eg open GL so thats the only reason i went of it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_cg Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 'designed for' means one thing, but in practice and using directX on the gaming cards, theres not much difference between them. Certanly not enough to warrant the price difference, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigball Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 i have pay'd for the computer i should get it in 7 working days "happy days" thanks for all the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Congrats Craig. It looks like a good system. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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