nisus Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Hi all, Imho one cannot apply an application layer to a set in ps, yet I wanna know whether it's possible at all? Maybe someone knows a turnaround for my problem. If you do, pls describe your technique. I'll explain my problem a bit. Basicly I have the following setup (for a painted tree) in ps7: SET - mask - layer Screen*BM (not fully filled + overlapping) - layer Multiply*BM (not fully filled + overlapping) - layer Normal*BM (not fully filled + overlapping) Layer Now I want to be able to add an application layer to change the hue/sat of my 'SET' without changing the 'Layer' underneath. Collapse all layers from the set to a single layer with an application layer won't work due to the fact that the multiply*BM layer darkens the original 'Layer'. When collapsed the latter won't work anymore. So how do I change colors of the set at once? rgds and tnx in advance. nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Nisus, I just ran through what you described. If you have a layer selected with in the the set and apply an adjustment layer, the effects are to the layer-s in the set, AND , to the layers below the set. BUT the set visibility and effects are independant. I checked this by turning off the set and layers with in. The view prior to the set being applied has not changed. I think this might resolve your problem???? To many hooks and ampersands in the logic -- if you know what I mean--, to explain it in well written consice english. The 5 month old sons wailing, gotta go!!!! rgrds WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Nisus, On closer review, you need to apply the adjustment layer, but in the new layer dialog box, check "group with previous layer". Locking the adjustments to that layer. You would need to do this to all of the layers in the set. ... thinking thats what you were looking to accomplish. It worked on the psd I tried, full range of color shift. BTW, was it application layer or adjustment layer? I hope it helps you out brgds WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Hi WDA, I don't understand a word your saying. Can you explain it in plain English pls? Idd I'm talking about adjustment layers... nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Yes, this is a tricky one. I think WDA id right. create identical adjustment layers above each layer in the set and 'clip' them (alt - click the deviding line between the layer and adjustment layer) to each layer. The only other thing you could do, is duplicate the layer set and then flatten the duplicate set. Then create your adjustment layer clipped to this and temporary hide your original set. Iether way, there will be some fiddling around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Hi all, Tnx for your replies. create identical adjustment layers above each layer in the set and 'clip' them (alt - click the deviding line between the layer and adjustment layer) to each layer. I use the CTRL+G shortcut to do the same thing. Unfortunately, I'm talking about +20 sets with over 20 layers per set... The only other thing you could do, is duplicate the layer set and then flatten the duplicate set. Then create your adjustment layer clipped to this and temporary hide your original set. I tried this, but since some blending modes are 'multiply' this won't work. The multiply will work fine on the collapsed layer, but will NOT add to the layers underneath anymore. The result therefor is different from the original. Imho Adobe should add the possibility to link an adjustment layer to a set much in the way that you can mask a set. rgds nisus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Denby Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Imho Adobe should add the possibility to link an adjustment layer to a set much in the way that you can mask a set.I couldn't agree more! [ October 10, 2003, 02:23 AM: Message edited by: nisus ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Alexander Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Nisus, Sorry! Focused in on the procedure like a logic problem... if this fucntion & that function then the result only if... dribble!!!! huh!!! I'm thinking it might be possible to use the 'actions' function. Set it up to go down the list of 20 sets? Not that far into ps 7 yet. It's been three years since working with any macros like this and that was approach d-base. brgds WDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted October 11, 2003 Author Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi Ernest, I know it's quite a large file, but that's because it's a huge environment I got to paint. Every tree has four layers, many trees and shrubbery to paint... I could make things simpler by painting them on a few layers, but it's very hard to tweak individual coloring afterwards. Painting the trees in the correct color at once is very hard because I have to switch color settings to often. I prefer to paint everything in one color, tweaking things afterwards. Adding correct shadow is also much harder since the overlap of different layers kills the need for tight selections. A huge time-saver I don't want to miss, since it takes a long time to finish at this moment allready. Anyway, tnx for the thoughts rgds nisus ps: I posted this thread on the adobe photoshop forum too... Maybe in ps9 (since ps8 will be shipping soon...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisus Posted October 11, 2003 Author Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi all, WOW! the Adobe forum is gooood! Here is what they replied sandy johnson - 05:15am Oct 10, 2003 Pacific (#1 of 2) Never tried to change a whole set like that, but there's an equally simple way. Ctrl+U gives you the Hue/Saturation dialog. You can change it on one layer and then click Ctrl+ALT+U to apply the same H&S settings to other layers. Post Reply | Bookmark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Photo Help - 06:06am Oct 10, 2003 Pacific (#2 of 2) Edited: 10-Oct-2003 at 06:08am PST Just create your Adjustment Layer inside the layer set and above the layers in that set. Change the blend mode of the set from "Pass through" to "Normal". rgs nisus btw: the latter tip really rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Burden III Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Unfortunately, I'm talking about +20 sets with over 20 layers per set...Imho Adobe should add the possibility to link an adjustment layer to a set much in the way that you can mask a set.I agree that you should be able to do that. Maybe you can, I just didn't know how. But perhaps this is nature's way of telling you your file is too complicated for your own good. That's a lot of layers--could you figure a way to make it more simple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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