kaz031 Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Hi All I have landed a job from a UK based company and I was wondering what the normal fees are in the UK. I wouldn't want to sell myself short or undercut the market so any insight would be greatly appreciated. I need to quote on stills both interior and exterior and an interior animation. I have attached an example of my work to for you to gage the quality. Thanks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buckley Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 do a few searches on the site forums for rates and prices but it really does range i have seen some extortionate prices for unprofessional work and some relatively cheap prices for great work and vice versa. heres an example, i had a meeting with a guy from a company the other day to do an animation for him, just a nice simple walkthrough of a building. he showed me what he was currently using and the animation that had been done for him. lets just say it wasn't the best. i asked him how much he paid for this 3minute animation (it was a very slow walkthrough) and he said it had cost him £45,000 and yes i have typed that correctly Aparently the guy told him that it had taken 150 hours, the majority of which i reckon was rendering time. So i shall leave you to work out how much the guy who did the animation was earning per hour and yes it does equate to £300 per hour. So it really does vary here in the UK hopefully other people can help you because i have just read my post back and it actually isn't that helpful in the slightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz031 Posted August 7, 2008 Author Share Posted August 7, 2008 Thanks Dave I appreciate the response. In SA R300 and hour is a bit low for an hourly rate, but you also can't include render time in your hours. Do you think that £500 is a fair price for an interior still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Buckley Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 Maybe up it slightly, then if you have to make changes to the render it allows you charge slightly more than at 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic H Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 i asked him how much he paid for this 3minute animation (it was a very slow walkthrough) and he said it had cost him £45,000 and yes i have typed that correctly Aparently the guy told him that it had taken 150 hours, the majority of which i reckon was rendering time. 150 hours is 18 days, which Id say is very reasonable for a 3 minute animation, especially if it was only 1 guy. 3 mins is alot of animation to do. Pretty steep price for a crappy flythrough though. I doubt that 150 included rendering. £500 is not enough for a still, unless you are a beginner. Your night shot looks good, If I was you Id be working out a daily rate and doing your pricing from that once you have worked out what costs you have and how much you need to make a profit. 300 per hour is not right its more like 300 per day if you are working alone / freelance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Woodhouse Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 £300 per day is about right for a freelance here in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlaviusC Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) Hello there...and excuse me...do you mean 500 pounds for a still image,as a room? Let's say a complete living room? Or 300? Are you guys being serious? I'm completely stunned. Edited August 15, 2008 by FlaviusC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adricorrea Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I work as a Design Visualiser in the UK (in the south-west, so London area is more expensive) and the company charge for us £60 an hour, and to do an exterior shot it will take us between 2 to 3 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGD Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think I'll nudge my prices up a little after reading this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Our WIP rate is £65 an hour which would equate to a half decent external still shot to be about £800 - £1000 depending on the complexity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Woodhouse Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Is it any wonder why architects practices are shunning 3D viz in favour of more traditional AI's when people are charging that sort of price for 1 shot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Unless you work for an architects practice, then you cut out the middle man! As for the price guide quoted above thats the going rate for the South of england, I have in the past been quoted £5000 a shot from some of the vis studios in and around london................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Tizard Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Recently saw a quote of 20k for three still images - nice work if you can get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Woodhouse Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Agreed, but my experience of Architects here in the north is that they prefer to outsource rather than do it in house mainly because of the cost of Max & asscociated hardware & salary cost. I don't know about anyone else but with the downturn in the New Build market architects just aren't commisioning 3D viz. Most seem to be pulling viz straight from AutoCad. As for London prices well i suppose office space is expensive ( much sarcasm ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Woodhouse Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Recently saw a quote of 20k for three still images - nice work if you can get it! That is taking the mickey big style. Still if you're daft enough to pay it. But IMHO it's those sort of quotes that kill it for the small Viz studios if you know what i mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGD Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 The £20k price ticket on three stills does seem crazy, but they would pobably be uber high quality, and perhaps done to very tight deadlines too. But yeah, nice work if you can get it! Not all Northern architects outsource, this one doesnt anyway . A number of the big ones certainly do the work in-house too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat@MDI-Digital Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 20K?? images for advertising (billboards/international campains etc) can often cost that much....but arch work?! Seems pretty bonkers for stills. Although........I did quote on a massive animation job - 300 odd houses, I think i went in at around 30k, but still that was months of work, not 3 stills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preludevtec22 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 (edited) Jeeze, the prices on this thread seem astronomical! Edited September 4, 2008 by Preludevtec22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfworld Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 The day rates seem right for one person working on a job... Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerdream Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Are the prices people are talking about for just the render no modeling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Tizard Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Are the prices people are talking about for just the render no modeling? No, for modelling and rendering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerdream Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) No, for modelling and rendering. Yikes. Time for a new business. I could see those prices for rendering only. I work as a Design Visualiser in the UK (in the south-west, so London area is more expensive) and the company charge for us £60 an hour, and to do an exterior shot it will take us between 2 to 3 days The hourly seems fair but a one man shop would have a hard time modeling and rendering a building in 2 to 3 days imo. Edited September 9, 2008 by innerdream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil.lunt Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 £60 to £70 an hour if design work is involved, £50 to £60 if it's just viz, dependent on client and complexity. I know places that have a cap on what they pay freelancers, though, so it's swings and roundabouts... Oh, and this is in the South East UK, just outside the Big Smoke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDVERTEX Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 @ charter Thank you for your exact info! I have typical question: If you have a big project, and you have to use 2-3-4 ppl to make it, did you charge for every person/hour? I mean, 1 hour multiplied by 4, if 4 members of the team are working continuous on one big project ? Thank You ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerdream Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 @ charter Thank you for your exact info! I have typical question: If you have a big project, and you have to use 2-3-4 ppl to make it, did you charge for every person/hour? I mean, 1 hour multiplied by 4, if 4 members of the team are working continuous on one big project ? Thank You ! I think you should have a rate for your studio per hour. You have overhead, lights, rent, benefits etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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