sunpupa Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 hi,every one I am a chinese and never been outside of china. I just curiously to know what do you think about china?good?or bad?any comments are welcome,just share your true feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippu Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 good artists , lots of people speaking mandarin , love the shaolin movies and the ming vases, thank you for the noodles if it is the chinese invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunpupa Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 I received one email said that my this thread was removed,or something like that. haha,it's been moved to here.sorry,I posted it in a worry place!and thanks for your guys reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 never been there. cant comment. what relevance is the question by the way? i think it's a legitimate question. there was actually a big article in my city's newspaper yesterday about how schools in our area are finally starting to expand language education beyond the same old spanish and french that have been the extent of learning up to this point. school administrators are convinced that kids in the U.S. need to start focusing more on Chinese and Arabic than Spanish and French, considering the economical and political benefits of have more people know those languages. at the rate the U.S. is going, China will own half of this country before long. I think China deserves a lot of credit for becoming the powerhouse they are and I think they will be huge in the vis. future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanNinja Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I read where China's GNP grew by 9.9%!! Incredible, especially in today's market. LOTE (Language Other Than English) commonly teaches Japanese, but I could see a swing towards Chinese. I think the problem is that there are so many dialects of Chinese! Is there a common or de facto language used in Chaina? For business and such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyElNino Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Given their economic miracle and sustained growth (even today, although slowing, economic growth is still at 9% for the previous quarter) its easy to forget that we are still talking about a one party state that has far reaching and damaging control over its inhabitants. Although in recent times western countries have bent their own rules (no names mentioned UK and the US!) China has made only limited moves towards addressing its human rights abuses, suppression of freedom of speech and its ongoing occupation of a sovereign state (Tibet). Things like government sponsored organ harvesting from executed prisoners don't help either. Saying all this negative stuff though, its an amazing culturally rich country and somewhere I would definitely like to visit, relying on the fact that hopefully nobody in the Chinese Ministry of Investigating Foreign Propaganda reads my post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art.chitect Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Just want to say.... They Have No Life..... Don't know what are they chasing for, always work hard but forget about social life............... I found it in here, Singapore....a lot of them have that kind of "Hard Working" ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihabkal Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Just want to say.... They Have No Life..... Don't know what are they chasing for, always work hard but forget about social life............... I found it in here, Singapore....a lot of them have that kind of "Hard Working" ............ but this applies to many other nations, this is the modern life, everything is faster, people need to buy a lot of stuff so they work harder so that they can afford it, the "working all the time" is a worldwide phenomena... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Just want to say.... They Have No Life..... Don't know what are they chasing for, always work hard but forget about social life............... I found it in here, Singapore....a lot of them have that kind of "Hard Working" ............ well i don't believe in Communism and have never visited China, but half the people I know here in the states seem generally unhappy because they are always working ridiculous hours, they are juggling too many social and family responsibilities and just don't enjoy life enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Paske Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 China - amazing history and culture, beautiful art and ancient traditions crashing into western forces of free markets. Tearing down ancient houses and destroying people's way of life for thousands of years to make way for olympic stadiums and high-rise buildings. No valuation of history. Incipient Architectural community. China has learned a lot from western (mostly Euro) architecture firms. Lead paint in toys, poison baby formula, out of control manufacturing with no regards to humanity. Corrupt building practices, pay-o-la to look the other way to building inspectors leading several collapsed schools during the earthquake. No human rights for incredible people. I've never met a person from China who hasn't been friendly, thoughtful, intelligent along with a sense of humor. China's growth will catch up to itself one day, and then we'll be in a mess larger than the current meltdown. I think when society's like China want the type of growth that has happened in the US in the past 150 years but with 20 (or 10) years, something is going to break. Irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunpupa Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 thanks for all you share your opinion here about china.regardless it's good or bad. every one's point is valuable for me or for any ordinary chinese people.we(chinese people) are inside of china(box),but your viewpoint come from the outside of the box. yes,it's indeed there are many serious problems exist in China's society although it's growing fast.scandals cited by Vince Paske are true."Lead paint in toys, poison baby formula(milk scandal,have caused thousands of babys are sick),Corrupt building practices caused many schools been buried." mentioned these scandals, I am wonder whether such scandals exist in your country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunpupa Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Is there a common or de facto language used in Chaina? For business and such? yes,almost every one can speak mandarin in China except rural area! if it's real there are many people out of china interest to learn chinese,I will consider setup a website to teach chinese!haha no boast,my mandarin is very standard,as standard as broadcaster.haha,simple because I was grew up in an oilfield headquarter where had gathered people from every province of china,local people just take a small part.So any dialect doesn't work there except mandarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Paske Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Most of our headline's regarding "scandals" in the recent past have been regarding our food and agricultural system. We've had E. coli breakout's and other scares in things such as beef, broccoli and tomato's. The US has free press and many consumer advocate organizations, so anything regarding the health and safety of US citizens is exposed quickly. Here's a quote from one such organization about the E. coli situation: Fresh Produce and E. coli Bacteria The FDA has raised concerns and is issuing new safety guidelines for fresh produce producers. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention states, that 12% of all food borne illnesses is caused by fresh produce. America is eating more vegetable and fruits. That is great news. However, the food industry, in their never-ending research on how to attract the consumer, offers precut bagged vegetables. Allowing fresh picked vegetables and fruits to go through several more preparations steps through human handling and machinery contact have brought about the increase in E. coli breakouts. Governments of large countries tend to weigh the cost of a few outbreaks and resulting death's versus expensive intervention, not unlike a car manufacturer making a decision for a recall to fix a defect. It's cold, but true. As for building's. I heard, I think from a 60 Minutes (investigative news TV show) that the mafia still skim's, and I can't recall the exact percentage - something like 5% or more from all the building projects in New York (or was it the entire US? I can't remember off-hand). Anyway, yes there is some corruption, but I think the building codes here are better followed and there is good accountability and a legal system to hold builder's to build by the code. I think a major problem the US currently faces is our infrastructure (roads, bridges, dams and other water projects) are reaching the final years they were designed to last. We had a major bridge collapse in Minneapolis (I-35W) where 13 people died and 145 were injured. My personal feeling is that these sorts of incidents will start to occur more often in the near future. There have been survey's completed by engineering firms that make that point and the US needs to address it more aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art.chitect Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 but this applies to many other nations, this is the modern life, everything is faster, people need to buy a lot of stuff so they work harder so that they can afford it, the "working all the time" is a worldwide phenomena... I'm really agree with this, but what i mean to say is, what do you feel when you have to start working since 9AM, not allowed to go home before 11 PM, and Saturday have To come at 9AM until 8 PM, Sunday sometimes they call You to come...And You never got Your Overtime payment.... Is it the only way to afford your needs? Just to buy Your stuff? How about the needs of having friends and spent your time with family? (Intermezzo Only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy L Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I watched a movie/documentary about stolen children in China recently. I forget the name, it was narrated by Ben Kingsley and was the most damning indictment of China Ive seen to date. Saying that, Im no expert. I hear the same rumors in the press as everyone else, but to be honest, the United States doesn't have very insightful international news coverage. Its also difficult to know what press coming from China is true and whats propaganda. One things for sure, allowing atrocities to happen and pointing at your history to excuse the current state of affairs shouldnt happen in any country. Lets hope its not happening in the most populous country on the planet. Dostoevsky once remarked that he measured the quality of a society by the quality of its prisons.. Ive never seen a Chinese prison, anyone here know anything about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskin Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) I know here in the states seem generally unhappy because they are always working ridiculous hours, they are juggling too many social and family responsibilities and just don't enjoy life enough. kind of a personal choice in my opinion. i work hard and enjoy moderate success. work excessively when absolutely required, yet for the most part maintain a relatively healthy work/life balance. I have fun practicing architecture and CG, and make ample time to spend with my wife and two girls. i work with people who spend enormous amounts of time in the office, but are no better off than i am. i make a choice at the end of every day to leave what im doing and go see my girls. my opinion of the chinese people are positive. they work hard, are polite, social, friendly, proud etc... (through email conversataions primarily). But i find their political practices rather repulsive in many respects. repression of freedoms etc... . Edited October 23, 2008 by mskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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